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From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
[18 Jan 1811]
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/75, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Notes that his his paper on classification [see RelatedMaterial below] has been read at Linnean Society; confident his principles are correct, and confirmed by Smith's assent, but could have given better examples. Critiques Count [Johann Centurius] Hoffmannsegg's [(1766-1849), naturalist] "Flore Portugaise" [(1809-1840)], which quotes Smith; plates coloured well but the system shows need to adhere to an established plan of arrangement so botanists can understand each other; discusses further.

Expecting his copy of Smith's "Tour of Hafod". He has been devising a method for putting an "effectual end to the African slave trade" and also looking into the state of the arts during the Middle Ages for a memoir. Looking forward to Smith's Lancashire visit.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
15 Nov 1811
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/76, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Comments on plans for establishment of botanic garden in Norwich and assures Smith that establishment of such a place is achievable on almost any scale; explains Liverpool Botanic Garden financing and costs. A garden is also being established at Hull; believes that "the union of science & pleasure which these institutions afford to the inhabitants of large towns" will lead to their being generally adopted. Congratulates Smith's mother, happy to hear of [William Fitt] Drake's good fortune. His son James just returned from tour of Scotland.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
13 Sep 1812
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/78, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

His concern for Smith's family and mother following a "calamity" and "insane" conduct of a Russian. Held a dinner at Liverpool for [Henry Peter] Brougham [first Baron Brougham and Vaux (1778-1868), lord chancellor, at this time prospective MP for Liverpool]; the Lords present "spoke with great spirit" and letters from principal members of both Houses of Parliament were read; believes the meeting will draw connection between the "commercial & manufacturing interests & the nobility & great proprietors of the land" closer, which is essential for the prosperity and safety of the country. Quotes stanza from Thomas Gray's [(1716-1771), poet] poem "A Long Story" in declining Smith's invitation to visit Holkham, [Norfolk, home of Thomas William Coke].

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
30 Sep 1812
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/79, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Hopes to visit [Thomas William] Coke at Holkham, [Norfolk], in October after parliamentary election where they hope to return [Henry Peter] Brougham [first Baron Brougham and Vaux (1778-1868), lord chancellor] and [Thomas] Creevey [(1768-1838), politician]. Trearing his sprained knee with leeches and astringents, which will limit his outdoor pursuits but as Smith has no "voracious appetite" for this will be content with his company.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
21 Oct 1812
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/81, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Prevented by his knee injury from joining Smith in his visit to Holkham, [Norfolk, home of Thomas William Coke]; suggests postponing until spring. Mortified by Liverpool election result.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
19 Dec 1812
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/83, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

His knee injury worse and confinement with rheumatism or lumbago across the "loins" prevents him from paying Smith and [Thomas William] Coke a Christmas visit. Has written and printed a review [see RelatedMaterial below] of [George] Canning's [(1770-1827), politician] Liverpool election speeches in response to his continual "attacks and sneers against all peaceable people". Repairs to his library and new additions, including a frieze in distemper by Michaelangelo under a picture of his master, Ghirlandaio.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
27 Feb 1813
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/84, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Still confined with his rheumatism; abandons his intended visit to Holkham [home of Thomas William Coke] and Norfolk. Prepared an account of improvements at his Chat-Moss farm for the Board of Agriculture. Compiling a catalogue of his pictures, drawings, and prints; discusses del Sarto copy of a portrait of Leo X and his cardinals by Raffaelli.

Hopes Smith received his review of [George] Canning's [(1770-1827), politician] speeches, which he wrote to be "obnoxious to so powerful a party both in politics & literature". Sends verses of his own composition for [Pleasance] Smith as thanks for the medicine recommendation; no relief from external stimulants of hot salt-water baths and frequent blisterings. Recently acquired Lord Bute's copy of Rumphius' [(1627-1702), botanist] ["Herbarii Amboinensis"].

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
20 Jul 1813
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/86, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Wishes Smith success in his Cambridge candidature [to become professor of botany]; has written to [William] Smyth [(1765-1849)], the history professor, in support of Smith. Remains lame but his sciatica pain reduced. Praises Smith's "New Doctors" song and epigram on Holkham. Fears they will not meet this year. Spending a few days at his Moss farm; recently sold 1000 acres to Willis Earle, and his son, James, has undertaken a large lot; farming now become his chief business, pictures and other works of art his amusement, and abhors politics and seldom reads books.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
10 Aug 1813
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/88, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Has written to Duke of Gloucester [Prince William Frederick (1776-1834), chancellor of Cambridge University] and [Thomas] Creevey [(1768-1838), politician] in support of Smith's Cambridge candidature [for botany professorship]; does not doubt Smith's success. His knee recovering but cannot yet commit to a journey to Norfolk. Has ordered [William] Roxburgh's "Asiatic researches" paper on 'Scitamineae', in which he appears to have partially adopted his [Roscoe's] arrangement but without acknowledgement, and eleventh volume of "Linnean Transactions" containing his paper ['On Artificial and Natural Arrangements of Plants']; his concerns about the paper. Will look out Smith's biography of [José Celestino Bruno] Mutis [(1732-1808), botanist] in [Abraham] Rees' "Cyclopedia".

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
12 Dec 1813
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/89, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Using leeches on his bad knee again. Cataloguing his books. Pleased to hear that Smith met the Duke of Gloucester [Prince William Frederick (1776-1834), chancellor of Cambridge University] at Holkham [home of Thomas William Coke]; the Duke's character and his efforts to interest him to Smith's Cambridge candidature [for botany professorship]. Concerned to hear of Coke's illness.

Sending Smith a full critique of [William] Roxburgh's 'Sciatmineae' paper in 11th volume of "Asiastic Researches". Thanks for East India seeds. Will write to Dr [Martin] Davy of Cambridge recommending Smith's candidature. Has little to say on his "wind-plough" as yet, it will be finished next month and is a scheme of his bailiff, Stannard.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
6 Jan 1814
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/90, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Sent Smith his criticism of [William] Roxburgh's 'Scitamineae' paper in "Asiatic Researches" to be presented to Linnean Society, though unsure whether the section on 'Canna' and description of three species of 'Alpinia' in Lord [Edward Smith-]Stanley's "Chinese Drawings" should be omitted.

Disgusted at the "arrogance, conceit, & bloodthirstiness" of his countrymen and is withdrawing himself as much as possible from political associations and public affairs. Recently made additions to his library from late Mr Willett's sale.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
27 Jun 1814
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/91, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Hopeful for Smith's Cambridge candidature [for botany professorship]; discusses possible impediment of Smith not belonging to the university and concludes his success will have a "favourable effect on the interests of science in general". Before it is printed asks Smith to review his paper critiquing [William] Roxburgh's paper on 'Scitamineae' in "Asiatic Researches"; unsure whether to omit descriptions of new genera from Lord [Edward Smith-]Stanley's "[Chinese] drawings". Resigned to not seeing Smith in Liverpool this summer.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
18 Oct 1814
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/94, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Received Smith's letter of 3 [October] too late to accompany Smith and the Bishop [of Norwich, Henry Bathurst (c 1744-1837)] to Holkham, [Norfolk, home of Thomas William Coke], but the return of his sons, William and Robert, from France frees him to visit from beginning of November.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
24 Dec 1814
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/96, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Describes his journey after leaving Smith at Narford [home of Andrew Fountaine], travelling from Ely to Cambridge, before journeying on to Allerton [Hall, Lancashire] through a tremendous storm which on returning home he found had ripped up trees of 60 or 80 years growth. At Cambridge dined with Professor [William] Smyth [(1765-1849), historian] and recommended Smith to him [for his Cambridge botany professorship candidature] but he is under a "promise"; hears from multiple sources that Smith is considered the best qualified for the position, but rivals have either been ahead of Smith in their applications or are taking advantage of "supposed indecision" on Smith's part; St John's College the most adverse to Smith, but he believes if Smith maintains his high ground he will either succeed or "attach no small share of disgrace to the university".

Will send Smith tracings of [Charles] Plumier's [(1646-1704), botanist] drawings, but only copy two of the 'Scitamineae' not given in [Nikolaus von] Jacquin's "Fragmenta". Thanks Smith for the visits to Holkham and Narford [homes of Thomas William Coke and Andrew Fountaine, respectively]; on his return found his wife in much better health.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
8 Apr 1815
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/98, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

He and his daughters thank Smith for present of the "two fruit-pieces"; Smith can retain the 'Canna' drawings for the present; sending Smith tracings of [Charles] Plumier's [(1646-1704) botanist] drawings and volume of poems collected by Mrs Riddel, for Lady [Pleasance] Smith.

Shocked by reports of the burning of Holkham, [Norfolk, home of Thomas William Coke], until realising impossibility of finding a mob to injure the man "who is the pride of Norfolk", though sorry to hear of the "ignorance & brutality" at Norwich. Expects to see Smith and Coke at Lord [Thomas, 1st Viscount] Anson's [(1769-1818)] this year.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
[2 Jul 1815]
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/100, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Discusses plans for proposed visit by Smith, [Thomas William] Coke, and Dr Parr to Allerton in September. Intends to write further on 'Scitamineae' plants; asks Smith to provide details of plant they examined in [Edward] Rudge's "Plants of Guiana" and [Etienne Ventenat's] "Jardin de Malmaison" and provides rough ink sketch and comments on appearance. Will not comment on the "astonishing events we have lived to see in the political world". Has not seen Smith's mother in Liverpool yet.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
[17 Nov 1815]
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/101, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Less busy than he was when Smith was recently staying and going to London tomorrow to switch from bankers Sir J Erdaile and Co. to Jones Loyd and Co. He has been entertaining the Archdukes John [Johann (1782-1859)] and Lewis [Louis (1784-1864)] of Austria for last three days; comments on John's character; they are also going to Scotland and Holkham to see [Thomas William] Coke, showed them his unfinished portrait of Coke. Apologises for any anxiety he may have caused Smith recently. Asks Smith to send the 'Canna' drawings to London.

Postscript in left hand margin of verso of first folio: Mr Martin [Smith's brother-in-law] has separated from his partners.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
6 Feb 1816
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/102, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Thanks for Smith's sympathy [on failure of his banking house]; speculates causes including the great employment of capital following the opening of the American trade and immense exports of Liverpool merchants, most of whom kept their accounts with them, although though most direct and immediate cause was from the least expected quarter [unspecified]. Confident that his and his partners' property will cover all debts and leave a disposable income for themselves and consoles himself with the thought of being freed from his many obligations. Was unaware that [Thomas William] Coke, Lord Derby [Edward Smith-Stanley], and others had been applied to. His family bear it well.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
21 Apr 1816
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/103, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Current state of affairs [following failure of his banking house]: they have appeased the "great mass" of their creditors and pleaded for time to convert their funds to money; surprised and consoled by the kindness and confidence they have met with, following a meeting on recommencement of business which was "unanimously asserted to" by the 400 in attendance, some refractory persons remain. Comments on support and friendship of Mr Martin [Smith's brother-in-law]. Allerton, his library, and art collection are all to be sold, but as they will fully discharge his obligations he does it with pleasure.

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London
From:
William Roscoe
To:
Sir James Edward Smith
Date:
28 Jul 1816
Source of text:
GB-110/JES/COR/17/104, The Linnean Society of London
Summary:

Current state of affairs [following failure of his banking house]: has dispatched catalogues of his books, drawings, and prints and expects sale to be well attended; Lord [George John] Spencer has already expressed an interest; transcribes a sonnet on being parted with his library. Business of their bank increasing again and if not for the commerical depression they would quickly recover what they had lost, discusses the particular risks of Liverpool banking ventures.

Pleased by Smith's improved health and opportunities to see [Thomas William] Coke and Duke of Bedford [John Russell, 6th Duke]; his own delight at making acquaintance of Lord [George John] and Lady [Lavinia] Spencer [(1762-1831)], who have invited him to spend Christmas at Althorp, [Northamptonshire]. Invited Dr Francis [Buchanan] to Allerton but his ship embarked early. Dispatched parcel of manuscripts to Coke at Holkham, [Norfolk].

Contributor:
The Linnean Society of London