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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
3 Oct 1859
Source of text:
DAR 98: B1–6
Summary:

Praises the Origin: a "splendid case of close reasoning".

Objects to CD’s having ignored Lamarck and Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire.

Thinks CD should omit mentioning problem of explaining the eye at the beginning of chapter 14. Suggests rewording several passages.

Thinks want of peculiar birds in Madeira a difficulty, considering presence of them in Galapagos.

Has always felt that the case of man and his races is one and the same with animals and plants.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
4 Oct 1859
Source of text:
DAR 170: 81; The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Notebook 241, pp. 75–90)
Summary:

Response to Origin. Praise for summary of chapter 10 and chapter 11.

The dissimilarity of African and American species is ‘necessary result of “Creation” adapting new species to the pre-existing ones. Granting this unknown & if you please miraculous power acting’.

C. T. Gaudin writes of Oswald Heer’s finding many species common between Miocene floras of Iceland and Switzerland. Interesting for CD’s migration theory.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
William Darwin Fox
Date:
[6 Oct 1859]
Source of text:
Christ’s College Library, Cambridge (MS 53 Fox 123)
Summary:

First impressions of the water-cure establishment are not favourable – "I always hate everything new".

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:
11 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.172)
Summary:

CL’s comments on Origin. Mentions corrections to last chapter suggested by CL.

Comments on lack of peculiar bird species on Madeira and Bermuda. Emphasises importance of American types in Galapagos.

Denies necessity of continued creation of primitive "Monads".

Denies need for new powers and any principle of improvement.

Discusses gradations of intellectual powers.

Adaptive inferiority and extinction of groups of species and genera.

Asserts that climate is less important than the struggle with other organisms.

Suggests an experiment involving primroses and cowslips.

The chapter on hybridisation.

Rudimentary organs.

Gives opinion of Lamarck’s work.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
William Erasmus Darwin
Date:
[14 Oct 1859]
Source of text:
DAR 210.6: 49
Summary:

Discusses events at Ilkley.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
James Paget, 1st baronet
Date:
[15 Oct – 19 Nov 1859]
Source of text:
Wellcome Collection (MS.5703/27)
Summary:

Thanks JP for bearing in mind his strong wish to learn any facts on inheritance at corresponding ages, and on correlation of growth.

JP’s case of teeth affected by syphilitic parents seems very curious. Would like to hear a few particulars when they meet.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Joseph Dalton Hooker
Date:
15 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
DAR 115: 23
Summary:

Book finished some two weeks.

Feeling much better at Ilkley.

Lyell thinks favourably of book but "staggered" at lengths to which CD goes.

Which continental botanists should receive presentation copies?

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Thomas Henry Huxley
Date:
15 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
Imperial College of Science, Technology, and Medicine Archives (Huxley 5: 70)
Summary:

Origin is finished.

Asks for names of foreign speculative naturalists.

Hopes THH will think he is on right road despite errors.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
John Murray
Date:
15 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
DAR R 143 (with R. F. Cooke correspondence)
Summary:

Discusses presentation copies [of the Origin].

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:
20 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.173)
Summary:

Comments on CL’s letters.

Discusses foreign animals naturalised in Australia and elsewhere.

Affirms man’s capacity to survive in Eocene climate.

Comments on American types.

Denies necessity for "continued intervention of creative power".

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
John Murray
Date:
20 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
National Library of Scotland (John Murray Archive) (Ms.42152 ff.94–95)
Summary:

Cannot suggest an appropriate device or ornament for cover [of Origin].

Will send a list for distribution of author’s copies as soon as JM tells him approximate trade price.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Elizabeth Pew, Lady Drysdale; Elizabeth Copland, Lady Drysdale; Elizabeth Drysdale, Lady Drysdale
Date:
[22 or 29] Oct 1859
Source of text:
John Wilson (dealer) (Catalogue 88); Clive Farahar & Sophie Dupré (dealers) (Catalogue 55); B & L Rootenberg (dealers) (May 1991)
Summary:

Declines an invitation to visit [Moor] Park.

He hopes that Dr Lane is arranging things to his satisfaction.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
22 Oct 1859
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A1/242: 15–24)
Summary:

Wishes CD would enlarge on the doctrines of [Pyotr Simon] Pallas about the various races of dogs having come from several distinct wild species or sub-species.

Suggests organisms have a latent principle of improvement which is brought out by selection or breeding.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
William Erasmus Darwin
Date:
[23 Oct – 20 Nov 1859]
Source of text:
DAR 210.6: 48
Summary:

Tells how to get information on, and gain membership in, the London Library.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Joseph Dalton Hooker
Date:
[23 Oct 1859]
Source of text:
DAR 115: 24
Summary:

Congratulates JDH on finishing his introductory essay [to Flora Tasmaniae].

Lyell’s position on mutability appears more positive in his letters to JDH than in those to CD. Considers JDH a convert.

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From:
Hugh Falconer
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
25 Oct and 12 Nov 1859
Source of text:
DAR 47: 215–17
Summary:

The antlers of 800 deer of the glacial period have been found in a cave. They show great variety of form, but gradation from one to the other can be traced when all are laid out. Suggests CD study changes that have taken place in the species since glacial period.

Has ordered the wicked book [Origin] CD has been so long a-hatching.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:
25 Oct [1859]
Source of text:
American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.174)
Summary:

Discusses P. S. Pallas’ theory of origin of domestic dog breeds. CD believes domestic dogs descended from more than one aboriginal wild species but ultimately "we believe all canine species have descended from one parent and the only question is whether the whole or only part of difference in our domestic breeds has arisen since man domesticated them".

Races of man offer great difficulty. The doctrine of Pallas and Agassiz that there are several species "does not help us" in the least.

Hopes Henry Holland will not review Origin.

CD’s and CL’s difference on "principle of improvement" and "power of adaptation" is profound. Improvement in breeds of cattle requires neither. Urges him to reread first four chapters of Origin carefully. Natural selection is not to be contrasted with "improvement": every step involves improvement in relation to the conditions of life. There is no need for a "principle" to intervene.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Joseph Dalton Hooker
Date:
[27 Oct or 3 Nov] 1859
Source of text:
DAR 115: 25
Summary:

More detailed comments on JDH’s introductory essay [to Flora Tasmaniae]. Remarks on struggle of vegetation are admirable.

JDH will receive Origin in about ten days.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
28 Oct 1859
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/4: 170–3)
Summary:

Since dogs have same gestation period as the wolf it is likely that the wolf is the ancestral wild species, if it is just one species.

CD’s belief that domestic dogs are descended from several distinct aboriginal species seems to contradict views on sterility of hybrids and variation in Origin. If domestic varieties came from hybrids of wild species it will be impossible to trace ancestry. Opponents will exploit these problems.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:
31 [Oct 1859]
Source of text:
American Philosophical Society (Mss.B.D25.175)
Summary:

Further discussion of origin of domestic dog breeds.

Effects of crossing separate races.

Comments on rate of artificial and natural selection.

The origin of pigeon breeds.

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