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From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
23 August 1877
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.40a, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

No summary available.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
22 September 1877
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.41, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer from New Haven, Connecticut where he is staying with his friend, the fern specialist, Daniel Cady Eaton. JDH admires the green & varied scenery of all the eastern states he has seen. JDH travelled from the Sierra Nevada to Niagara falls, then to Albany & to Poughkeepsie to visit the Vassar College for girls where the astronomers Miss Mitchell & Miss Sommerville are based. Also saw grounds of [Henry Winthrop] Sargent at Fishkill before going on to New York. In New York JDH went to both museums of natural history in Central Park & met their heads: Albert Smith Bickermore & Frederick Law Olmsted. At New Haven JDH has met, or soon will: Othniel Charles Marsh, James Dwight Dana & William Henry Brewer. Marsh is busy with dinosaur remains discovered in the Rocky Mountains, JDH has seen the bones in Arkansas Canon. A botanist named Brewer formerly of the California Survey gave JDH useful information on the distribution of Pines. JDH discusses his return to England from Boston, he may be delayed there & will use the time to name his specimens at Asa Gray's herbarium & work on his Royal Society address. He will resign as President of the Royal Society at the end of the session. He notes that nobody in the United States of America has received a copy of the [RBG Kew Annual] Report. In a post script dated 24 Sep 1877 JDH writes of the arrival of his collections at New Haven. JDH has received a letter from WTTD with news of insubordination from the gardeners at RBG Kew, he discusses the degree to which John Smith & George Nicholson are at fault & to a lesser degree John Reader Jackson & William Granger. JDH disapproves of the raising of such men as Jackson, [Alexander] Moore & Nicholas Edward Brown to positions that make it hard to dismiss them. For discipline of the constables they should be regularly inspected. JDH mentions that his son Charles Paget Hooker has not passed his Chemistry [exam].

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
19 July 1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.48, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

Letter informing Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer of the death of JDH's niece Willielma Campbell née Hooker. Her mother Isabella [Whitehead Hooker] has not been clear about the cause of Willielma's death. She will be buried at the Glasgow necropolis near the High Church. JDH & family will travel to Glasgow & stay at the Royal Hotel, Georges' Square.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
16 August 1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.42, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes about the very bad health of [John] Smith, Curator of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, whose doctors, Paget & Walshe, say he has a heart condition. Attacks of the illness often render Smith completely immobile, he has palpitations & severe pain. JDH goes on to give his own medical opinion that Smith has worsening heart disease but for Smith's state of mind it would be better not to have it officially diagnosed. JDH has not seen much of the British Association for the Advancement of Science [48th meeting, Dublin, Ireland]. However, he has sent Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer[WTTD] [William] Spottiswoode's address & [William Henry] Flower's paper on the Linnaean classification of mammals. JDH did not hear [Thomas Henry] Huxley's address as he spent the day with [Alexander] Moore, the Gardener at Glasnevin; where JDH admired the collection of tree ferns & the conifers. JDH has met Suringar & the man WTTD corresponds with about Sinapis glauca. [Alexander] Dickson, [John Hutton?] Balfour & [James] Britten all refused botanical visitors. JDH will take Flower's place at the Botany & Zoology section. Tickets to lectures at the Royal Dublin Society wer sold out to townspeople before any of the delegates arrived. The geologists' section has been quarrelling & 'set upon [William] Pengelly'. An afternoon given by the Lord Lieutenant, John Spencer-Churchill, at Vice Regal Lodge was ruined by bad weather. [John] Sadler has not turned up. JDH criticises the House of Commons office for printing the [Annual RBG Kew?] Report from an uncorrected copy. JDH has asked his son Charles Paget Hooker to visit his Aunt, & will probably send him to Edinburgh. JDH intends to go next to Killarney.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
16 August 1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.43, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer about his travels in Ireland [with his wife Lady Hyacinth Hooker]. They have travelled from Dublin to Muckross in Killarney & seen the Torc Cascade with Suringar & a geologist, as well as the Gap of Dunloe & the lakes. From Muckross they went to Queenstown, Cork where they have met with [William Edward] Gumbleton & the Bagwells. JDH describes these people & their fine gardens, he particularly mentions the Fuchsias & Escallonias. At Cork JDH also met with Brady, who went to Morocco, [Archibald] Liversidege Professor of Geology at Sydney New South Wales, & the Miss Townsends with their uncle. JDH plans to see more gardens around Cork before returning to Dublin to see Glassnevin & Powerscourt & travelling on to Pendock.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
-10-1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.46, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to Sir WilliamTurner Thiselton-Dyer about John Reader Jackson [Keeper of the RBG Kew museums] attending the Paris Exhibition [Third Paris World's Fair]. JDH would also like to take Jackson to the Jardin des Plantes. JDH has attended a deputation from the Colonies to the Prince [Princes of Wales, later Edvard VII] offering him the colonial collections from the exhibition to establish a colonial museum. These collections will be stored in the South Kensington galleries [Victoria and Alber Museum] temporarily which means that RBG Kew will not get the Douglas fir but they wil get a Xanthorrhoea, a tree fern stem probably of Alsophilia cooperi & some other unspecified things. JDH has seen Brand's[?] collection of woods but was not impressed by the display. JDH visits the exhibition daily& is also often at the Embassy with the Prince, who sympathises with keeping RBG Kew shut [to the public during the mornings] but suggests a compromise. JDH still needs to see the horticulture diaplays at the exhbition. Also, to meet with M. Pierre about publishing Pierre's collections with government assistance, about which Joseph Decaisne is sceptical. The balls or 'fetes' at Versailles & the Ministries have been badly organised, JDH [& his wife Hyacinth Hooker] spend the evenings with the Regnals[?], relations of Hyacinth's & the Symonds family. They have been to the Hippodrome. They will catch the Boulogne train home. JDH is returning the proofs of the BOTANICAL MAGAZINE to Reeve, the publishers. William Munro is leaving for Dieppe having been disappointed with the grasses at the Jardin des Plantes. JDH reports some gossip about John Forbes Watson leaving the India Office.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
22 October 1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.44, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer about his time in Paris. He [& his wife Hyacinth Hooker] could not stay at the Hotel de Famille & have been forced to take rooms at an inferior establishment; Hotel l'Amiral. They have been to the Exhibition [Third Paris World's Fair] where JDH admired the Japanese edibles such as Pteris aquilina in syrup, also a collection of bamboos, the Englsih glass & French artificial flowers but he got bored with the amount of porcelain on show. They have also been to Cluny, a prize giving at the Palais d'Industrie & briefly to an overcrowded ball at the 'Ministre of Agriculture & Commerce'. JDH will go to a speech by the exhibition jurors & to see the Prince at the British Embassy. JDH has met with William Munro & together they will go to the Jardin de Plantes to visit Joseph Decaisne. JDH & Hyacinth dine daily with Mr & Mrs Ragnel, Hyacinth's aunt. Due to rain they will not attend the ball at Versailles. JDH approves of the improvements being made in Paris but finds the city very noisy, smelly & poorly designed for pedestrians. The Palais Royal does not have the quality shops it used to, good jewellery especially is now to be found further West. JDH is worrying about his [Royal Society] Address, he asks WTTD to help him by preparing a list of significant scientific developments. In a post script JDH ads that the Duval Bouillons are: 'so full one cannot get near them'.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
23 October 1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.45, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH agrees that he & Sir William Thiselton-Dyer should pay for [John Reader] Jackson's trip to Paris. JDH advises caution in dealing with [Daniel] Oliver, he believes that seclusion has led to Oliver developing 'erroneous views'. Gunther was proposed for a Royal Medal a year earlier than Oliver. The Exhibition [Exposition Universelle, third Paris World's Fair] will close at the end of November but exhibitors can sell off exhibits from the end of October.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
2 December 1878
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.47, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH provides Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer with the address of Edward Delmar Morgan & asks him to send brochures & an Aponogeton to Edward de Regel there. There is a large party with JDH at Tortwort [Court], incl: Froude & daughter, Martin Theodore & wife, Lord & Lady Somers, Lord Aberdeen & daughter, Mr & Mrs York of Pendock, J Shaw Lefevre & his wife who is Lord Ducie's daughter, Alfred Denison brother of the late Speaker, Mrs Stewart or Stuart. When he returns JDH will arrange to send some Dahlias to Lady Ducie. JDH asks Thiselton-Dyer to send him some leaves of Parrottia [Parrotia persica or Persian ironwood]. He notes that Ducie & Somers are both mad about their gardens & trees. JDH adds in a post script that he saw [Brian Harvey Houghton] Hodgson at the train station, he was going to Chippenham & looked very ill with gout. In a further post script JDH adds that he has visited Hodgson & he looked better.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
19 July 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.49, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH discusses the displeasure of John Smith, Curator of the Royal Botanic Gardens Kew, at his proposed removal from the Curator's House to a more manageable dwelling, such as Baker or Taylor's house, owing to Smith's illness. JDH has explained to Smith that the plan is to keep him on as Curator, even if he cannot walk, but hire an Assistant Curator to help him, & that these measures are being taken in the hope of prolonging Smith's life. JDH reports that Smith blamed one Mr Curndale for being deceitful about the matter & claimed he had heard rumours the job had been offered to Dunne or someone else whose legs worked, through the Duke of Buccleugh [Buccleuch]. JDH suggests this rumour may have arisen if the Duke spoke to Noel or Mitford [of the Office of Works] about the post on Dunne's behalf. JDH suspects Smith's wife is causing trouble over the matter & it has appeared in the Richmond papers. JDH has just received an invitation to the funeral of his niece, Willielma Campbell née Hooker at St George's Church, close to the Hotel JDH will be staying at [Royal Hotel].

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
22 July 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.50, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to inform Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer that [Isabella] Hooker has asked JDH [& his wife Hyacinth] to stay at Largs for a few days after the funeral [of Willielma Dawson Campbell] to support the widower James Campbell. He mentions the Glasgow weather & the aragnements for the funeral at St George's Church. JDH has been walking around Glasgow remebering the places he & his brother [William Dawson Hooker] used to visit when they lived there from 1821 to 1839. They did not like Glasgow but it holds many memories never the less.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
-8-1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.53, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer [WTTD] about attending a cattle sale at Dunmore with [James] Colvile. He describes his rooms at Tullyallan [Tulliallan] Castle near Kincardine in Fife. He mentions that Lord Keith filled the house with pictures of Naval engagements & mezzotints of [George] Romney, [Sir Joshua] Reynolds & [John Singleton] Copley & [Francesco] Bartollzzi's things. He describes the house's current owner, Lord William Osborne, who served at the Siege of Bhurtpore & under Colvile's uncle Lord Auckland. He came to Tulliallan through his wife, 'Lady William' [Georgina Augusta Henrietta Keith], & now lives a life of leisure. JDH also describes 'Lady William'. Other people at Tulliallan were: Lady Julia Wombwell, Lord Moreton who is Lord Ducie's son & a Cattle breeder, & a Parson from Ross in Hereford. He describes the cattle sale & the prices fetched. JDH has received letters from WTTD & approves of all his suggestions & his improved letter regarding a grant. JDH is concerned about [John] Smith's health & recommends that WTTD consult Dr Laurence & refer to the kindness of Cundale, for example in the rolling machine accident, & the mischief of a previous doctor called Davis. Mentions the contract for the 'T' [Temperate?] House & potential appintments to natural history positions in Scotland for [E. Ray?] Lankester, [Henry Alleyne] Nicholson of St Andrews & William Carmichael McIntosh. Also mentions: memo to [Algernon Freeman]-Mitford & the board regarding Wilkie, Smith & the management of Kew's buildings by the Clerk of Works; letter about Ceylon [Sri Lanka] forests; [Mordecai Cubitt] Cooke's work on fungi; & [John] Macoun's Canadian plants. Discusses the housing of [John] Peacock's succulents, he would prefer an annex be built on the succulent house to continuing the displacement of the Australian plants from the Octagon. JDH sends his regards to the Brightwen family. He approves of the dismissal of Taylor based on 'neglect of orders'.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
14 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.51, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH informs Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer [WTTD] that he has located a C.O. [Colonial Office?] paper previously thought lost. He had shown it to Sir [William Fullerton?] Elphinstone & some Cingalese visitors. JDH also informs WTTD that he has written to Palgrave, Reid, Spottiswoode & Syme. JDH advises that Callender should be told about 'the article' that appeared in the GARDENERS' CHRONICLE regarding rotten beams in the Victoria House & Fern House at RBG Kew. JDH does not approve of the article but as the beams were clearly visible to visitors he is not surprised. JDH asks WTTD to reply to Taylor & Wilkie on his behalf. JDH discusses niceties to avoid offending Oliver when not sending plants through his officer: Baker. Sending the plants can be delayed until JDH returns except in the in the case of Asa Gray's plants.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
16 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.52, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

No Summary available.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
20 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.54, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH addresses a series of points raised in a recent letter from Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer. the subjects are as follows: Indian Museum Collections coming from the India Office to RBG Kew, a potential site for [Marianne North's] Gallery, the colour of the glass houses, letters from Gerard Noel [First Commisioner of Works], arranging for Marianne North to visit Kew, JDH's return from Scotland in time to catch Morris, 'the Works' affair', a letter to Wilson & Cadder, & a matter that prompts JDH to feel sorry for 'Wall'. JDH adds that he is working on Williamson's supplement to his Royal Society paper on Tranquairia, which he claims is the sporange of Lepidonotus & Anellides & that they are macrospores.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
21 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.55, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH mentions some glass damage at RBG Kew which was underestimated by [John] Smith & Wilkie. Regarding the India Museum he suggests that William Turner Thiselton-Dyer meet with Lingen on the pretence of getting his advice about financial considerations of the transfer [of India Museum collections from India House to other institutions including RBG Kew]. He may want to take an enclosed letter from the India Office [enclosure not present] to the meeting, though it says nothing of Cooke's successor. JDH briefly discusses some practicalities of building a gallery for [Marianne] North's drawings at RBG Kew. JDH will write to Bernays. Sends his love to his daughter Harriet [Thiselton-Dyer nee Hooker].

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
22 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.56, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

No summary available.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
23 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.57, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH writes to Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer about arrangements for the Marianne Northe Gallery. He dismisses [Algernon Freemna-]Mitford's concerns about rights to the pictures & appreciates Marianne North giving up her idea of serving tea at the gallery. He also mentions the matters of a reward for [Daniel?] Morris, & Mead's post. He discusses the amount of money awarded by the board to repair damages to the [glass of the?] frames, Palm House & Temperate House. He mentions the design of another Hot House. He refers to dealing with the Colonial Office regarding Trimen & Syme & to a memo to Mitford about Cooke. JDH adds that he has had to finish the letter in haste as the post is being taken early.

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
24 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.58, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

Contributor:
Hooker Project
From:
Sir Joseph Dalton Hooker
To:
Sir William Turner Thiselton-Dyer
Date:
31 August 1879
Source of text:
JDH/2/16 f.59, The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
Summary:

JDH has been to Edinburgh with Colvile & visited his sister Mrs Maria McGilvray nee Hooker, [John Hutton] Balfour & Dickson. Isaac [Bayley Balfour] had already left for Glasgow. Describes the sickness of [Charles Wyville?] Thomson, it was a complaint of the kidneys but he is not so ill now that they should be talking about his successor [for Chair of Natural History at Ediburgh University]. Reports that John Sadler [Curator] is keeping the Edinburgh Botanic Garden in good order & making many improvements, he particularly mentions the palm house, rock garden & well named plants. JDH suggests that they send a private note to [Algernon Freeman-]Mitford, Secretary to the Office of Works, about Taylor & Wilkie's shortcomings rather than lodging an official complaint. If there is good weather JDH will go to Stirling & the Trossachs.

Contributor:
Hooker Project