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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
18 Sept 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/6: 187–95d)
Summary:

It is strange that Agassiz, who is for the "sanctity of species", should favour Pallas’s view of hybrid origin of domestic dog.

CL has not meant to advocate successive creation of types but to question assumption that all mammals descended from single stock. Why should a Triassic reptile or bird not move towards mammalian form because an ancestral marsupial has appeared? Believes recent appearance of rodents and bats in Australia explains their lack of development.

Can CD supply a reference on plant extinction on St Helena?

Believes marsupials better adapted for surviving drought in Australia than higher mammals.

Will not press argument about lack of development of mammalian forms on islands, but CD should note objection.

Does CD’s belief in multiple origin of dogs affect faith in single primates in different regions?

Does time lapse between putative independently descended mammalian forms mean first form will "keep down" later incipient one? Thus Homo sapiens has prevented improvement of other anthropomorphs; bats and rodents on islands would prevent improvement of lower forms into mammalian.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
25 Sept 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 3–12)
Summary:

Returns "excellent" MS in which CD favours hybrid origin of domestic dog, which CL believes strengthens case for common progenitor of wild species.

Doubts CD’s authorities for antiquity of dingo.

Variation will raise many points for investigation.

"Leporine" hare–rabbit hybrid should be investigated.

Has re-read passages in Origin that CD suggested.

Annals of Natural History would probably reprint Gray’s review of Origin at their own expense.

CD’s thought that modern reptiles could not develop into existing Mammalia but only into another high form is a "grand notion" compatible with "the infinite capacity of the creative power".

Comments on New Guinea marsupials.

Still thinks that the Australian genera and species are so well fitted for extraordinary droughts that they would get the better of the dingo.

Suggests that once there were more races of man, though from common stock. Competition and then hybridity checked divergence.

Falconer’s views on elephant classification. CL attaches little value to Falconer’s objection that mastodons and elephants do not come in chronologically, as they should in CD’s view.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
27 Sept 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 12)
Summary:

Fears that multiple origin of the domestic dog will be extended to mammals or man. Believes, with Hooker, that whatever occurs in domestication is possible in nature.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
30 Sept 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 13–19)
Summary:

Expects lack of diversification of immigrant mammals on long isolated islands will come to show slowness of selective change.

Asks whether CD has speculated on turtles becoming terrestrial on remote islands.

Perhaps non-diversification on islands is explained by tiny proportion of variable species. Those that vary on continent may not do so on island.

A. Gray is afraid of objections to Origin from imperfection of fossil record.

His argument with Falconer over the hypothesis of limited modifiability.

Are the bird-like characters of the Apteryx parts not yet suppressed or nascent organs?

Extinctions of ammonites, belemnites, and hippurites are striking. Perhaps ammonites made way for higher cuttle-fish.

Believes hybrid origin of domestic dog would weaken objections to treating white man and negro as species. Are there not many reputed species among the Mammalia more closely related than these races?

Objects not to the term "selection" but to what CD assigns to it. It should not be confused with the "Creative power" behind variation and the "capacity of ascending in the scale of being".

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
6 Oct 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 22)
Summary:

Wonders why the coracoid bone in the flightless Apteryx is so large when the clavicles are reduced. The clavicles are even separate in the ostrich. The large coracoid in reptiles is explained by the connection to the forelimbs.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
24 Nov 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 40–8)
Summary:

CL has calculated that elevation and subsidence of certain formations in Sweden and Norway take place at the rate of 2 1/2 feet per century. He now proposes to estimate the age of a bed by including a conjecture that pauses occur in the oscillations in the ratio of 4 periods of stasis to one of movement. Applying this formula to Scotland, the last subsidence and re-elevation would be 590,000 years and the age of the beds with human implements would be 20,000 years.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
30 Nov 1860
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 49–57)
Summary:

Satisfied that CD finds his conjectured rate of elevation and long periods of stasis reasonable, even if these periods cannot be estimated. Explaining upheaval by subterranean lava flow makes these pauses plausible. Suspects that mountainous areas move more than lowland and coastal areas. General upheavals or subsidence in Europe in glacial period are unlikely. Believes with Jamieson that there was glacial action in Scotland before its submergence and that it was equally mountainous then. Subterranean upheaval visits different countries by turn. Horizontal Silurian strata must have been submerged and upheaved. Rest has always been the general surface character. Believes, however, that the quantity of late Tertiary movement is against CD’s belief in the constancy of continents and oceans: perhaps since the Miocene period, but not since the Cretaceous.

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From:
Tiberius Cornelius Winkler
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
7 July 1861
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Gen.117/6084)
Summary:

Sends his article ["Quelques nouvelles espèces de poissons fossiles", Hollandsche Maatschappij der Wetenschappen, Haarlem 2d ser. 14 (1861)]

and Dutch translation of the Origin.

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From:
Thomas Francis Jamieson
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
3 Sept 1861
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/A3/7: 75–92)
Summary:

Observations from a fortnight in Lochaber. Found the entrance to Loch Treig to present the clearest evidence of intense glacial action. States, in contradiction of David Milne-Home, that there is glacial scoring in Glen Spean, as Louis Agassiz described, and moraine around the mouth of Loch Treig. There is little sign of water erosion on the rocks crossed by the lines in Glen Roy. Believes the smoothed rocks at the eastern end of Loch Laggan are due to flow from the lake and not tidal action. The lines in Glen Roy are too neat for a lake shore subject to tides. Given the glacial scoring sweeping round from Glen Spean into Glen Treig, and all the boulders, TFJ is astonished that anyone could deny that there had been glaciers there. [See 3247.]

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
30 Sept 1861
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Gen.112/2813-16)
Summary:

Asks for copy of CD’s paper ["Ancient glaciers of Caernarvonshire", Collected papers 1: 163–71]. Gathers that drift of Moel Tryfan is glacial.

Believes Glen Roy roads formed later than submergence of Scotland.

Asks CD’s opinion concerning relative chronology of various glacial deposits, particularly a flint tool find in the Ouse River near Bedford.

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From:
Thomas Francis Jamieson
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
24 Oct 1861
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Gen.112/2828-9)
Summary:

Discusses his observations at Glen Roy. Mentions glaciers seen by Hooker in the Himalayas. Discusses problems of glacier–lake theory.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
13 Feb 1837
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell Collection Coll-203/B9)
Summary:

"I could think of nothing for days after your lesson on coral reefs, but of the top of submerged continents. It is all true, but do not flatter youself that you will be believed, till you are growing bald, like me, with hard work & vexation at the incredulity in the world."

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From:
Thomas Francis Jamieson
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
24 Mar 1862
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Gen. 112/2834–5)
Summary:

Writes with an important fact about the parallel roads of Glen Roy. The watershed at Makoul corresponds with the lowermost of the Glen Roy lines. Over a stretch of 20 miles from east to west the lowermost of the Glen Roy lines is near parallel with the present sea level.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:
30 July 1837
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell Collection Coll-203/A1/69: 140–2)
Summary:

Galapagos land birds and reptiles.

No two naturalists agree on any fundamental idea [of species]. "Everything is arbitrary."

Has been with Richard Owen going over the S. American fossils.

Has worked out the non-relation between animals’ bulk and luxuriance of vegetation.

The horse once common on the Pampas. The mystery of the extinction of these animals.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
20 Aug 1862
Source of text:
K. M. Lyell ed. 1881 , 2: 358; The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/B9)
Summary:

Jamieson has revisited Glen Roy and confirmed his theory of glacier lakes.

A. G. More considers CD the most profound of reasoners.

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From:
Thomas Francis Jamieson
To:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
Date:
17 Oct 1862
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Gen. 112/2859–60)
Summary:

TFJ returns CD’s "too flattering" letter concerning Glen Roy [see 3761]. Further discussion of [A. C.] Ramsay’s, [J. D.] Hooker’s, and CL’s arguments about the formation of glacial lakes.

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From:
Charles Lyell, 1st baronet
To:
Charles Robert Darwin
Date:
9 May 1863
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Lyell collection Coll-203/B9)
Summary:

Has been to Osborne on the Isle of Wight to visit Queen Victoria, who had lots of questions about CD.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
William Turner
Date:
14 Dec [1866]
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (DC. 2. 96/5 folio 1)
Summary:

Thinks of adding chapter on man to Variation. Asks about muscles connected to os coccyx in man and existence of other rudimentary organs in man.

Sends copy of Origin.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
William Turner
Date:
15 Jan [1867]
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Dc.2.96/5 folio 2)
Summary:

Requests information about rudimentary muscles and organs in man. Asks about marrow of os coccyx, and about testes and ovaria in early embryos of both sexes.

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From:
Charles Robert Darwin
To:
William Turner
Date:
1 Feb [1867]
Source of text:
The University of Edinburgh Centre for Research Collections (Dc.2.96/5 folio 3)
Summary:

Thanks for information about rudimentary organs. Asks about rudimentary character of human hair and panniculus carnosus.

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