To J. D. Hooker   12 August 1881

Down, | Beckenham, Kent. | (Railway Station | Orpington. S.E.R.)

Augt 12th 1881

My dear Hooker

I can answer hardly any of your questions,1 but am able to send you by this post Blytt’s first essay, which please at some time return.—2 My memory deceived me; I can find nothing about permanence of continents & oceans in my Coral Book; but as in 1st Edit. of Origin (p. 309) when I allude to this subject I refer to Coral Reefs, this, I suppose, deceived my memory.3 I am almost sure that Dana’s letter was in Nature, I think in the current year.4 Reades article, I believe, was in the Geological Mag.,5 but as I resolved never again to write on great & difficult subjects, I unfortunately kept no record & read the articles merely for amusement.

I think that I must have expressed myself badly about Humboldt:6 I shd have said that he was more remarkable for his astounding knowledge than for originality.— I have always looked at him as in fact the founder of the geographical distribution of organisms.—

I thought that I had read that extinct fossil plants belonging to Australian forms had lately been found in Australia, & all such cases seem to me very interesting as bearing on development.— I have been so astonished at the apparently sudden coming in of the higher phanerogams, that I have sometimes fancied that development might have slowly gone on for an immense period in some isolated continent or large island, perhaps near the S. Pole.— I poured out my idle thoughts in writing, as if I had been talking with you.—

No fact has so interested me for a heap of years, as your case of the plants on the equatorial mountains of Africa;7 & Wallace tells me that some one (Baker?) has described analogous cases on the mountains of Madagascar. I think that you ought to allude to these cases. Wallace thinks that the seeds have been blown to these mountains from those of equatorial Africa!!!!!!8

I most fully agree that no problem is more interesting than that of the temperate forms in S. hemisphere common to the North.— I remember writing about this after Wallace’s book appeared, & hoping that you would take it up.9 The frequency with which the drainage from the land passes through Mountain-chains seems to indicate some general law, viz the successive formation of cracks & lines of elevation between the nearest ocean & the already upraised land; but that is too big a subject for a note.

I doubt whether any insects can be shown with any probability to have been flower-feeders before the middle of the Secondary Period—10 Several of the asserted cases have broken down..—

Your long letter has stirred many pleasant memories of long-past days when we had many a discussion & many a good fight

Yours ever affectionately | Ch. Darwin

In Origin, p. 309, CD wrote: ‘The coloured map, appended to my volume on Coral Reefs, led me to conclude that the great oceans are still mainly areas of subsidence ... and the continents areas of elevation. But have we any right to assume that things have thus remained from eternity?’ The passage was largely unchanged in later editions (see Origin 6th ed., p. 288). For the query about Coral reefs, see the letter to J. D. Hooker, 6 August 1881 and n. 6, and the letter from J. D. Hooker, 11 August 1881 and n. 4.
James Dwight Dana summarised his views on the permanence of continents in Nature, 3 March 1881, p. 410. See also letter to J. D. Hooker, 6 August 1881 and n. 6.
Thomas Mellard Reade’s arguments against the permanence of continents and oceans were published in Geological Magazine (Reade 1880). See letter to J. D. Hooker, 6 August 1881 and n. 9.
In a paper on the flora of the Cameroon Mountains, Hooker had noted that temperate plants that were common in Europe were present in the higher elevations of this equatorial region of Africa (see Hooker 1863 and Correspondence vol. 11, letter to J. D. Hooker, [9 May 1863], and letter from J. D. Hooker, [24 May 1863]; see also Origin 6th ed., p. 337).
Alfred Russel Wallace had mentioned the recent findings of John Gilbert Baker as confirmation of his views on the migration of plants across mountain chains (see letter from A. R. Wallace, 1 January 1881 and nn. 1 and 2).
CD had commented on Wallace’s Island life (Wallace 1880a) in his letter to J. D. Hooker, 23 November 1880 (Correspondence vol. 28).
In his letter of 11 August 1881, Hooker remarked that insects found in coal formations may have been flower-feeding. See also letter to J. D. Hooker, 6 August 1881 and n. 16.

Manuscript Alterations and Comments

0.1 (Railway … S.E.R.)] parentheses added
1.2 first] interl
3.1 belonging … forms] interl
4.3 I think … cases. 4.4] added in margin

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