James David Forbes to Faraday   2 May 1832

Freeland, Perthshire | 2d May 1832

My dear Sir

I had the pleasure of receiving yours1 from Brighton two days ago. The same day I saw in the Annales de Chimie for December all that our continental friends have made of the Discovery2: with a translation of Nobili & Antinori's paper3 which bears date 31st Jan. (from your mentioning that it was in the Antologia for November I had fancied it was much earlier4). I must say they have made but poor pickings of your Discovery, & it is quite a specimen of French fact to see how they have patched together all their little experiments & additions (sometimes perfect trifles) with all the formality of the 1° 2d° &c. But what is most provoking is to see Ampere bringing together in formal array his old Geneva Experiments which we may be sure he would have had out long ago if he had made anything of them5; but it is wonderfully easy to connect crude & unintelligible fragments when another has furnished the key.

It was very interesting to me to see how exactly Nobili had followed the subject as I did & that he met with the very same difficulties & succeeded in the very same way which I did. This you will see in my paper which I shall soon send you. It is to be published in the Edinburgh R.S. Transactions6 & I put it into the hands of the printer before I saw anything of Nobili's paper.

I was a good deal vexed at not getting your Paper when you were good enough to say that if you were not convinced I had already got it you would have sent me another copy. I was at Mr. Buchanan's house the day before yesterday & he had heard nothing of it. If Mr. Hudson cannot explain why it has not come to hand you would extremely oblige me by sending a copy by coach addressed to me care of Sir William Forbes7 & Co Edinburgh[.] My reason for being in a hurry is that I must add a postscript to me paper, about Nobili's experiment & I should think it necessary to see yours first.

Do not doubt my dear Sir that you will get all the credit due to you for your fine experiments on this subject[.] All the nibbling of the Français will not do you much harm. I am yet very imperfectly informed as to the extent of your experi‑ments on induction of electric currents, as till I read yesterday in the Annales your letter to Hachette the only tangible information I had on the subject & the only guide which led me to my experiments & discovery of the spark, was contained in the few hints you were kind enough to give me one evening after the Royal Institution Lecture.

I return to Edinburgh in two days in order to observe the Transit of Mercury8[.]

I am Dear Sir | Yours very sincerely | James D. Forbes


Endorsement: To be forwarded if not at home

Address: Michael Faraday Esq | Royal Institution Albemarle St | London

Letter 572.
This comprised the paraphrase of Faraday's letter to Hachette, Ann.Chim.,1831, 48: 402-3, Becquerel (1831) and Ampère (1831a, b).
Nobili and Antinori (1831b).
Faraday had not made it clear in either letters 570 or 572 that Nobili and Antinori (1831a) was dated January 1832. In Forbes, J.D. (1832b), 197-8, in the opening three paragraphs, he gives the priority to Nobili and Antinori. However, no doubt prompted by his finding the date of their paper, in Forbes, J.D. (1832c) he deleted the first three paragraphs. To both papers he added almost identical postscripts, dated 7 May 1832, giving priority to Faraday.
Ampère (1831b). See De La Rive, A.-A. (1822a) and Williams (1985), 99, 103-4 for an account of this experiment. See also C.-G. De La Rive to Faraday, 24 September 1822, letter 181, volume 1.
Forbes, J.D. (1832b).
The bank founded by Forbes's grandfather William Forbes (1739-1806, DNB).
On 5 May 1832. See Imperial Calendar, p.18.

Bibliography

BECQUEREL, Antoine-César (1831): “Faits observés”, Ann. Chim., 48: 403-4.

WILLIAMS, L. Pearce (1985): “Faraday and Ampère: A Critical Dialogue” in Gooding and James (1985), 83-104.

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