James David Forbes to Faraday   14 August 1858

Pitlochry | Perthshire | 14 Aug. 1858

M. Faraday Esq | &c &c &c

My dear Sir

I was very much obliged to you for your letter of the 23d July1 - & especially for the expressions of regard which it contains & which I can assure you that I heartily reciprocate.

I am also much obliged by your remarks on my little paper2; on which I shall not trouble you with more than a few additional words.

I hope however that you will resume consideration of a subject which you are so well able to illustrate & which is still to a certain extent obscure.

I cannot doubt that regelation takes place between Ice & Metals. The pile of shillings, though perhaps the simplest is not the only experiment I have tried; but is so easy that I hope you will repeat it. I have frozen in like manner a Bronze Letter presser of several pounds weight firmly to ice in a warm room: but this requires a long time.

I do not see any thing contradictory to the views which I have advanced, in the other experiments you mention. The finely triturated Ice - or Mr. Harrisons3 crystalline laminae when in contact with an indefinite mass of water diagram clearly belong to the portion of the curve in my figure between N and O, or to the physical boundary between water & Ice having a temp. intermediate between 31.7 and 32.0 & possessing the plastic quality proper to that intermediate state, just as in the case of wax, tallow, or fusible metal, when portions brought into contact by a gentle pressure become moulded into one another’s substance by molecular cohesion. Further in the case you mention where a quantity of finely triturated particles of ice are taken in the hand and squeezed together, I seem to understand perfectly why “regelation” takes place:- You have drained or squeezed away all the perfect water from the mass, & the molecules of plastic ice ceasing to receive heat from the perfect water [which is operating a minute fusion at the surface of each particle without communicating the smallest quantity of heat to its interior]4 the condition of the Ice becomes that of more or less hard Ice not being in contact with perfect water, & this is what is called regelation.

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I had last the pleasure of seeing you at Greenwich in Oct 18515. Since the end of November in that year I have been more or less of an Invalid - at times severely ill - which will account for my comparative inactivity in matters of Science. I trust that your health is good & will long continue so.

Yours sincerely | J.D. Forbes.

Forbes (1858).
James Harrison (c.1816-1893, AuDB). Scottish born Australian inventor.
Square brackets in text.
Forbes was in London for the end of the Great Exhibition (Shairp, et al.(1873), 351), while Faraday was staying in Blackheath (Faraday to Hawkins, 11 October 1851, letter 2466, volume 4).

Bibliography

FORBES, James David (1858): “On some properties of Ice near its Melting Point”, Proc. Roy. Soc. Edinb., 4: 103-6.

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