To John Hirst   9th Mar. 1848

9th Mar. 1848.

My Dear Sons,

Your last two letters1 caused me no small exhilaration of soul – I am rejoiced to hear that you are delving into those brains of yours,2 you will find there a richer product than is yielded by either the mines of Low Moor or the quarries of Southowram3 – of Tom I never had much fear, but of Jemmy4 my hopes often sunk to zero – they are now I confess rising and that more on account of his reading than of his republicanism5 – you did wisely in joining the Mechanics Institute,6 but let me still keep this as a frontlet before your eyes, that a connexion with a literary Society is valueless if it do not prompt to individual exertion – appropos subject of discussion ‘Individual Competition as opposed to Co-operation’ the last may be good – the first cant – England however may melt into one wide cooperative league but it will prove a stagnant pool if individual culture be unheeded –

Jemmy cant make his epistle egotistical by letting me know what he is doing. I am much pleased to find that he has attacked Euclid.7 how far has he got, and what time does he lay out for the completion of the lst 6 books?8

I should like very much to receive a brief abstract of the amount of information he has derived from Joyce9

I know of no method so good as devoting with firm purpose a portion of each day to your studies you are sure to get along even though the time you study may be short. I am sometimes struck by the bulk to which my short Journal entries10 have swelled, simply because they were regularly made –

Jemmy asks me for a subject for an essay, this I shall not attempt to give – I would advise him to choose one which is embraced by his own feelings, it would be far better if he would look into his own spirit for a subject than if he could commit all Howitt’s articles11 to memory

The subject of capital punishment I dont like, it is so hackneyed and such a load of twaddle has been heaped upon it – the question I conceive can only occur in two lights 1st is it just? 2nd Is it useful the 1st is of course the true standard and if Wm Howitt12 be able to prove the negative he has more brains than I gave him credit for.

Neither can I see the great utility likely to flow from the discontinuance of hanging –at all events I believe that utility to be utterly disproportionate to the fuss kicked up about the matter. There is great danger of kind hearted generous young men being led away by this tinfoil liberality – the only check I see to this is for them to seek knowledge from themselves and not from others – to take the trouble to form their own opinions which on many subjects must be a work of time and patience. Could not Jemmy take a subject within his scope, for instance the school and the office – the student and the apprentice, and give his hearers a little of his own fresh feeling upon the matter? – And here I set down a parting word for Jemmy – dont let me lead you away – if your opinions be different from mine let your own be your guide and not mine – If you think Howitts articles good pursue the subject by all means –

I respect that feeling on the part of Booth13 though he certainly has relinquished great advantages –

I care very little for such a movement as the French revolution only so far as it is indicative of the popular current beneath – as an end it would be pitiful – as a means it may be great – the provisional Government are however about to grapple with some terrible questions. they guarantee employment to the workman, if they can solve this question they will deserve eternal honour – I dont like their motto, liberty and equality14 – as long as society is composed of such heterogeneous particles, we shall now and then want some vigorous heel to trample it into order – but I have spun myself too far

Good bye & believe me | Sincerely yours | J Tyndall

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last two letters: letters missing.

delving into those brains of yours: Tyndall was mentoring both Hirst and Craven as they undertook a program of self-education. See Introduction.

mines of Low Moor or the quarries of Southowram: Low Moor and Southowram are both villages in West Yorkshire, England.

Jemmy: James (‘Jemmy’) Craven.

republicanism: taken in the Irish context, this refers to support for Irish independence from Great Britain (OED).

the Mechanics Institute: Tyndall had taken night-time classes at the Mechanics’ Institute in Preston in 1842 (ODNB).

Euclid: Euclid’s Elements, a Greek treatise on geometry written around 300 BCE. Editions of Euclid’s treatise were still used to instruct students in geometry in the nineteenth century.

lst 6 books: probably O. Byrne, The First Six Books of The Elements of Euclid (London: William Pickering, 1847).

Joyce: not identified; possibly J. Joyce, A System of Practical Arithmetic (London: 1838), an elementary textbook.

short Journal entries: Tyndall kept a journal, in which he regularly recorded his daily activities.

Howitt’s articles: William and Mary Howitt founded Howitt’s Journal in May 1847. This journal focused on radical politics and popular literature (ODNB).

Wm Howitt: William Howitt (1792-1879), a writer from Heanor, Derbyshire (ODNB).

Booth: Francis Booth; see letter 0345, n. 2.

liberty and equality: the motto of the French Revolution was, ‘Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité’.

Please cite as “Tyndall0346,” in Ɛpsilon: The John Tyndall Collection accessed on 29 April 2024, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/tyndall/letters/Tyndall0346