6th. Jan.
My dear Huxley,
I was puzzling my head for a name for that property and had asked Hooker to puzzle his, but your ‘frangi-flexibility’ comes nearer the thing than anything I had thought of. Still it does not quite please me, and for this reason. A flexible solid according to our hitherto notions must be elastic. Flexibility in a solid implies a power of regaining its shape when the strain upon it is removed. Our ice would not do so and therefore it is frangi-plastic rather than frangi-flexible; but you miss the alliteration in the former which to the ear is something. The particles of a plastic body move past each other and form new attachments as our ice does, but the particles of a flexible body move round each other. If you still consider the term applicable I am willing to let it go. Some term is necessary; and we should fix the theory by calling it the ‘frangi flexible theory.’ I had set down the ‘break and make’ theory; a better term than either would be one to include the idea of breaking with that of refreezing.2 I had the account of our travels written much more fully at first but Francis thought it too full and I cut it down greatly. With regard to the arrangement I think it might be improved, but the change in this respect indicated by your heads would be a formidable one. You have only to remember that Stokes is to have the paper this week, and that I cannot lay a hand on it, except to insert half a dozen notes which are beside me ready written. I shall certainly when it comes into my hand cut away something about the tensions and pressures, so as to leave as little hold as possible upon this point. This I have set down among my notes. We must I think avoid diverting the mind too much from the real points at issue. In fact I have been thinking of omitting the whole of that about the Grindelwald glacier3 as really irrelevant, and if you encourage me in the least I will do so. Your little experimental devices are full of ingenuity but instead of expanding in this direction I have the strongest inclination to retrench. The arrangement is the point I think which the time at our disposal will confine us to. I am sure this can be made more effective and we might probably be permitted to do something at this even after the reading of the paper on the 15th.4
Ever Yours | John Tyndall
In regard to the question ‘why does the glacier travel faster in wet weather.’ I ask in reply: does it travel faster? The observations upon which this conclusion rests appear to me to be next to worthless. But supposing it does, my temporary answer would be ‘that it is certain that sliding along the bottom [1 word illeg] hence to some extent.’ The theory of Saussure coexists to a certain extent with our theory; thus causing the motion to be made up of two true causes. Now the sliding will increase in wet warm weather and this would be an answer sufficient to deprive an objection founded on the faster movement in wet weather of all force. We cannot hope to solve every question at once, and to attempt now to examine the plasticity of ice is quite out of the question. Others have examined it—Parsons5 & Dolfuss6 for example—and found it more flexible, but I know what led them to think so, although I have made no mention of it. Indeed numberless things have occurred to me that I have not mentioned, simply because I wanted to present the subject as unencumbered as possible.
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[1857]: the year is given by the reference to Tyndall and Huxley’s glacier paper (see n. 4).
Some term is necessary… with that of refreezing: Tyndall settled on fracture and regelation for his theory of glacier motion. See letter 1306, n. 10.
Grindelwald glacier: two glaciers, the Lower Grindelwald (Unterer Grindelwaldgletscher) and the Upper Grindelwald (Oberer Grindelwaldgletscher) south of the town of Grindelwald, on the north side of the Bernese Alps.
reading of the paper on the 15th: J. Tyndall and T. H. Huxley, ‘On the Structure and Motion of Glaciers’, Phil. Trans., 147 (1857), pp. 327–46. Tyndall read this paper at the RS on 15 January 1857, commenting in his 16 January letter to Hirst, ‘I had an hour and a half talking at the Royal Society last night and am very weary after it. In fact I was weary before I commenced, and the papers merely laid an additional pound upon the bending back of the camel’ (letter 1319).
Parsons: Charles Cléophas Person (1801–84), French professor of physics at Besançon. See C. C. Person, ‘Sur la chaleur latente de fusion de la glace’, Paris, Comptes Rendus, 30 (1850), pp. 526–8.
Dolfuss: Daniel Dollfuss-Ausset (1797–1870), Alsatian industrialist who also conducted glacier research; published the multi-volume Matériaux pour l’étude des glaciers in the 1860s and 70s (ADB).
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