To Rudolf Clausius   15th Nov. 1857.

15th Nov. 1857.

My dear Clausius

The thought of writing to you occurred to me some time ago on reading your article ‘on the motion which we call heat’1 in which I felt great interest. It was translated by our friend Hirst for the Philosophical Magazine, and I hope your paper on the ‘Electrolytes’2 will soon appear also. I spent 6 weeks of the present summer beside the Mer de Glace3 and was from 10 to 12 hours daily upon the ice. On the 13th of August, accompanied by Hirst and a single guide4 I repeated Saussure’s experiment of firing a shot on the summit of Mont Blanc.5 I was regarded by the authorities of Chaumouni6 as an exceptional case and was permitted to go where I pleased, and with as many & as few guides as I thought fit. Of course a considerable number of observations were collected during those 6 weeks, and I am now engaged in writing them out and discussing them. I dare say you saw a little paper of Huxley’s in the Philosophical Magazine7 some time ago. I have seen a good deal of the water and air-bubbles in ice since; the question is a very curious one for these water drops which are associated with the air-bubbles were assuredly once ice, and then the question arises how have they been melted? I think they have been melted by the quantity of heat which has been able to pass through the ice by conduction. The statement may appear paradoxical that ice can be melted by heat which has passed through another portion of the substance without melting it. But I think theory would lead us to expect a result of this kind. A particle at the surface of a mass of ice is in a very different mechanical condition from that of a particle within the mass, where it is surrounded and controlled on all sides by other particles. The quantity of heat necessary to give a particle at the surface the liberty of liquefaction, if I may use the term, would not I think be sufficient to give a particle within the mass the same liberty. But supposing a cavity—an airbubble, for example,—to exist within the ice, the particles surrounding the bubble would be in the same condition as those at the surface, and a quantity of heat may pass through the solid without melting it, which is capable of liberating the particles bounding the air cavity. I really see no other way of explaining the fact.8 One may perhaps form a rough conception of the thing by thinking of the transmission of motion through a row of elastic balls, the last one of the row being liberated. The explanation given by Agassiz and the Schlagintweits,9 is I think without basis; you know they suppose the air to be warmed by the heat which has passed through the ice, the air thus melting its surrounding walls.

While in Geneva10 I thought of you, and made an excursion to the place where the Rhone enters the lake11 to see the colour of its water: it was quite thick and muddy, but it was surprising how soon the suspended matter settled, the river losing its distinctive character and being absorbed in the general hue of the lake. Now the reason I thought of you was this. I am afraid we are too easily satisfied with the explanation usually given of the colour of the lake of Geneva; that it is merely the colour of the water itself. I know that pure water is blue, but the question still remains: is this blueness sufficient to account for the exceptional depth of hue of the lake of Geneva? Would a stratum of distilled water show an equal depth of colour? The river brings down an immense quantity of sediment, partly derived from the rubbing action of the glacier of the Rhone12 upon its bed. Mud is extremely plentiful, and I think it must be the case that some of these mica13 plates are so small as to remain suspended in the lake throughout its entire course. Faraday has obtained suspended gold so fine that it takes months to sink to the bottom of a bottle 6 inches high. But if the plates be in the lake, they must have an action like that which you attribute to the vesicles of water in the air, and hence, to their presence the colour of the water may be in some measure due. Do you not think this possible? I find the colour of snow depends materially upon its state of aggregation: on the summit of the Stelvio14 last year where fine new snow was lying the hole made by my alpenstock15 was filled with a delicate blue light. lower down the mountain, while the snow was more coarsely granular, this Effect almost wholly disappeared. I noticed the same upon the top of Mont Blanc this year: a hole made by the iron of my alpenstock was sufficiently deep to cause the colour to show itself in great beauty. You once mentioned to me I think that Brücke had made some experiments with the vapour of sulphur: can you tell me where they are described?16 and tell me at the same time whether you retain your former opinion regarding the colour of the sky.

Have you formed any conception as to the manner in which a transverse undulatory motion, like that of radiant heat can build a tree in opposition to the force of gravity:17 or how the chemical rays produce the tensions of vegetable & animal tissues? I was going to ask a few more questions, but I have given you enough of trouble for the present.

Believe me dear Clausius | Most sincerely yours | John Tyndall

RI MS JT/1/T/173

your article ‘on the motion which we call heat’: R. Clausius, ‘On the Nature of the Motion which we call Heat’, Phil. Mag., 14 (1857), pp. 108–27. Originally published as R. Clausius ‘Ueber die Art der Bewegung, welche wir Wärme nenne’, Poggend. Annal., 100 (1857), pp. 353–80.

hope your paper on the ‘Electrolytes’: R. Clausius, ‘On the Conduction of Electricity in Electrolytes’, Phil. Mag., 15 (1858), pp. 94–109. Originally published as R. Clausius, ‘Ueber die Elektricitätsleitung in Elektrolyten’, Poggend. Annal., 101 (1858), pp. 338–60.

Mer de Glace: see letter 1306, n. 12.

a single guide: Edouard Simond.

Mont Blanc: see letter 1320, n. 6.

Chamouni: see letter 1353, n. 9.

a little paper of Huxley’s in the Philosophical Magazine: ‘Observations on the Structure of Glacial Ice’, Phil. Mag., 14 (1857), pp. 241–60.

I have seen a good deal of the water and air-bubbles in ice since… I really see no other way of explaining the fact: this was perhaps one stimulus for Tyndall’s 1859 work on the absorption of radiant heat by gases.

the Schlagintweits: two of the five Schlagintweit brothers (see letter 1416, n. 8), Adolf (1829–57) and Hermann (1826–82), wrote Untersuchungen über die physikalische Geographie der Alpen (Leipzig: Verlag von Johann Ambrosius Barth, 1850), updated as Neue Untersuchungen über die physikalische Geographie und Geologie der Alpen (Leipzig: Verlag von Johann Ambrosius Barth, 1854) which included their brother Robert as an author.

Geneva: see letter 1293, n. 3.

the Rhone enters the lake: near Le Bouveret, see letter 1293, n. 6.

glacier of the Rhone: see letter 1297, n. 12.

mica: a small glistening particle of talc, selenite, or other crystalline substance present in large numbers in the structure of a rock (OED).

Stelvio: Stelvio Pass in the Eastern Alps on the border of Switzerland and Italy, which Tyndall crossed on 2 September 1856. See Glaciers of the Alps, pp. 29–30.

alpenstock: see letter 1424, n. 6.

where they are described?: Clausius answered this question in his reply (see letter 1461).

Have you formed… force of gravity: this question is perhaps an early indication of Tyndall’s view that the same forces operate in the organic as in the inorganic world.

Please cite as “Tyndall1453,” in Ɛpsilon: The John Tyndall Collection accessed on 5 June 2025, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/tyndall/letters/Tyndall1453