WCP1440

Letter (WCP1440.3848)

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Frith Hill, Godalming. 1761

August 26th 1888

Dear Mr. Hemsley

You are aware that Patrick Geddes proposed to exclude natural selection

in the origination of thorns & spines, which he imput[e]s to "diminishing vegetativeness" or "ebbing vitality of the species". It has occurred to me that insular floras should afford a test of the correctness of this view, since

in the absence of mammalia the protection of species would be less needed.

Your study of these floras will no doubt enable you to answer a few questions

on this point. Spines & thorns are I believe usually abundant in arid regions

of continents — especially in S[outh]. Africa where large herbivorous mammals abound. Now of the long-continued presence of these [2] mammals is a factor in the production of spines by nat[ural]. select[ion]. they should

be wholly or comparatively absent in regions equally arid where there are

no mammals. The Galapagos seem like such a case — also perhaps some of the Sandwich Islands, and generally the extra-tropical volcanic islands. Also Australia comparatively and the Highlands of Madagascar. Of course the endemic species must be chiefly considered as they have had time to be modified by the conditions. If you can give me the facts, or your general

impression from your study of these floras, I shall be much [3] obliged. I see, of course, many other objections to Geddes' theory, but this seems to offer a

crucial test.

Believe me ǀ Yours very truly ǀ Alfred R. Wallace [signature]

W.B. Hemsley Esq.

P.S.

I can find no reference to the

point in your "Introduction" — nor

in Darwin's account of the Galapagos

no in his 'Origin of Species'.

A.R.W. [signature]

176 written in a later hand in red ink.

Transcription (cc) (WCP1440.1219)

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To W.B Hemsley2, Esq.) Firth Hill, Godalming.

August 26th. 1888

Dear Mr Hemsley

You are aware that Patric[k] Geddes3 proposes to exclude natural selection in the organisation origination of thorns & spines, which he imputes to "diminishing vegetativeness" or "ebbing vitality of the species". It has occurred to me that insular floras should a afford a test of the correctness of this view, since in the absence of mammalia the protection of spines would be less needed.

Your study of these floras will no doubt enable you to answer a few questions on this point. Spines & thorns are I believe usually abundant in arid regions and continents — especially in S. Africa where large herbivorous mammals abound. Now if the long-continued presence of these mammals is a factor in the production of spines by nat[ural]. select[ion]. they should be wholly or comparatively absent in regions equally arid where there are no mammals. The Galapagos seem to be such a case — also perhaps some of the Sandwich Islands, and generally the extra-tropical volcanic islands. Also Australia comparatively, and the Madagasca Highlands of Madagasca[r].

Of course the endemic species must be chiefly considered as they h as they have had time to be modified by the conditions. If you can give me the facts, or your general impression from your study of these floras, I shall be much obliged. I see, of course, many other objections to Geddes' theory, but this seems to offer a crucial test.

Believe me | Yours very truly | Alfred R. Wallace. [signature]

P.S. I can find no reference to the point in your "Introduction4" — nor in Darwin's5 account of the Galapagos6 nor in his Origin of Species7.

A.R.W.

A number in brackets (1) is written in ARW's hand at the top of the page.
Hemsley, William Botting (1843-1924). British botanist.
Geddes, Patrick (1854-1932). British biologist, sociologist, geographer, philanthropist and pioneering town planner.
Hemsley, W. 1885. Report on the present state of knowledge of various insular floras: being an introduction to the botany of the Challenger expedition, Sect. IV, v1, pt 1. In Thomson, Wyvill C and Murray, John. 1880-1895. Report Of The Scientific Results Of The Voyage Of H.M.S. Challenger During The Years 1873-76 Under The Command Of Captain George S. Nares And The Late Captain Frank Tourle Thomson. Edinburgh. H.M.S.O.
Darwin, Charles Robert (1809-1882). British naturalist, geologist and author, notably of On the Origin of Species (1859).
Darwin, C. 1839. Journal Of Researches Into The Geology And Natural History Of The Various Countries Visited By H.M.S. Beagle Under The Command Of Captain Fitzroy R.N. From 1832 To 1836. Henry Colburn.
Darwin, C. 1859. On The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection, Or The Preservation Of Favoured Races In The Struggle For Life. London: John Murray, Albemarle Street.

Transcription (cc) (WCP1440.4242)

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To W.B Hemsley2, Esq.) Firth Hill, Godalming.

August 26th. 1888

Dear Mr Hemsley

You are aware that Patric[k] Geddes3 proposes to exclude natural selection in the organisation origination of thorns & spines, which he imputes to "diminishing vegetativeness" or "ebbing vitality of the species". It has occurred to me that insular floras should a afford a test of the correctness of this view, since in the absence of mammalia the protection of spines would be less needed.

Your study of these floras will no doubt enable you to answer a few questions on this point. Spines & thorns are I believe usually abundant in arid regions and continents — especially in S. Africa where large herbivorous mammals abound. Now if the long-continued presence of these mammals is a factor in the production of spines by nat[ural]. select[ion]. they should be wholly or comparatively absent in regions equally arid where there are no mammals. The Galapagos seem to be such a case — also perhaps some of the Sandwich Islands, and generally the extra-tropical volcanic islands. Also Australia comparatively, and the Madagasca Highlands of Madagasca[r].

Of course the endemic species must be chiefly considered as they h as they have had time to be modified by the conditions. If you can give me the facts, or your general impression from your study of these floras, I shall be much obliged. I see, of course, many other objections to Geddes' theory, but this seems to offer a crucial test.

Believe me | Yours very truly | Alfred R. Wallace. [signature]

P.S. I can find no reference to the point in your "Introduction4" — nor in Darwin's5 account of the Galapagos6 nor in his Origin of Species7.

A.R.W.

A number in brackets (1) is written in ARW's hand at the top of the page.
Hemsley, William Botting (1843-1924). British botanist.
Geddes, Patrick (1854-1932). British biologist, sociologist, geographer, philanthropist and pioneering town planner.
Hemsley, W. 1885. Report on the present state of knowledge of various insular floras: being an introduction to the botany of the Challenger expedition, Sect. IV, v1, pt 1. In Thomson, Wyvill C and Murray, John. 1880-1895. Report Of The Scientific Results Of The Voyage Of H.M.S. Challenger During The Years 1873-76 Under The Command Of Captain George S. Nares And The Late Captain Frank Tourle Thomson. Edinburgh. H.M.S.O.
Darwin, Charles Robert (1809-1882). British naturalist, geologist and author, notably of On the Origin of Species (1859).
Darwin, C. 1839. Journal Of Researches Into The Geology And Natural History Of The Various Countries Visited By H.M.S. Beagle Under The Command Of Captain Fitzroy R.N. From 1832 To 1836. Henry Colburn.
Darwin, C. 1859. On The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection, Or The Preservation Of Favoured Races In The Struggle For Life. London: John Murray, Albemarle Street.

Published letter (WCP1440.6406)

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To DR. W. B. HEMSLEY

Frith Hill, Godalming. August 26, 1888.

Dear Mr. Hemsley,— You are aware that Patrick Geddes proposes to exclude Natural Selection in the origination of thorns and spines, which he imputes to "diminishing vegetativeness" or "ebbing vitality of the species." It has occurred to me that insular floras should afford a test of the correctness of this view, since in the absence of mammalia the protection of spines would be less needed.

Your study of these floras will no doubt enable you to answer a few questions on this point. Spines and thorns are, I believe, usually abundant in arid regions of continents, especially in South Africa, where large herbivorous mammals abound. Now, if the long-continued presence of these mammals is a factor in the production of spines by Natural Selection, they should be wholly or comparatively absent in regions equally arid where there are no mammals. The Galapagos seem to be such a case — also perhaps some of the Sandwich Islands, and generally the extra-tropical volcanic islands. Also Australia comparatively, and the highlands of Madagascar.

Of course, the endemic species must be chiefly considered, a they have had time to be modified by the conditions. If you can give me the facts, or your general impression from your study of these floras, I shall be much obliged. I see, of course, many other objections to Geddes's theory, but [2] this seems to offer a crucial test.— Believe me yours very truly, | ALFRED R. WALLACE.

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