WCP1477

Letter (WCP1477.7629)

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Old Orchard,

Broadstone,

Wimborne.

24th August. 1911

My dear Clement Reid

I have read your paper on British plants & the glacial period1 with great interest, mainly because you support my view of the great powers of distribution of plants over the ocean, not only for a few tens of miles, but for many hundreds & even, in rare cases, thousands. I really wish you would look up & read again my discussion of the flora of the Azores, in my "Island Life"2 (pp.256-262). In this case, there [2] is absolutely no doubt that the whole of its plants have been gradually introduced during the latter half of the Tertiary3 period over a width of ocean of about 1000 miles, by such causes as you mention — while the absol absence of all those genera whose seed could not have passed by those means, completes the proceed proof. No single botanist, that I know of, has shown any flaw in my argument, or [3] shown any other mode of origin for the Flora; yet very few refer to it or accept it!

But while, therefore, I quite agree with your argument as to the fact of the very large amount of our species which have been so derived since the glacial period, I cannot accept your view that the whole has been so introduced, for several reasons. It is certain that temperature, is only one of many, very many, factors that determine the distribution of species, and it is also certain [4] that at the southern limit of the ice-sheet the ice sheet the winter temperature may have been quite wild enough to support a large number of our species. In a large part of the South of England I see no reason why hundreds of species may not have lived since the Pliocene4, the covering of snow during the winter being a compensation for the lower temperature of the air for a portion of the time. But I cannot go into this great question now, but I have discussed it in my chapters on the Glacial Epoch in my "Island Life" — to the best of my recollection.

Yours very truly | Alfred R. Wallace [signature]

I am suffering from exczema & rheumatism, and cannot leave home A.R.W.5

Pray give us a call if in this neighbourhood.6

Clement Reid paper
Wallace, A. R. (1880) 'Island Life: Or, The Phenomena and Causes of Insular Faunas and Floras, Including a Revision and Attempted Solution of the Problem of Geological Climates' London, UK: Macmillan & Co.
Term used to cover the geological period from 66 million to 2.6 million years ago.
The Pliocene geological period lasted from 5.3 million to 2.6 million years ago.
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Transcription (WCP1477.1256)

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To Clement Reid, Esq.

Old Orchard,

Broadstone,

Wimborne.

August 24th. 1911

My dear Clement Reid

I have read you paper on British plants & the Glacial period with great interest, mainly because you support my views of the great powers of distribution of plants over the ocean, not only for a few tens of miles, but for many hundreds & even, in rare ases, thousands. I really wish you would look up & read again my discussion of the Flora of the Azores, in my "Island Life" (pp. 256-262). In this case, there is absolutely no doubt that the whole of its plants have been gradually introduced during the latter half of the Tertiary period over a width of ocean of about 1000 miles, by such causes as you mention — while the absence of all these of all those genera whose seeds could not have passed by those means, completes the proof. No single botanist, that I know of, has shown any flaw in my argument, or shown any other mode of origin for the Flora, yet very few refer to it or accept it!

But while, therefore, I quite agree with your argument as to the fact of the very large amount of our species which have been so derived since the global period, I cannot accept your view that the whole has been so introduced, for several reasons. It is certain that temperature, is only one of many, very many, factors that determine the distribution of species, and it is also certain that at the Southern limit of the ice-sheet the winter temperature may h have been quite mild enough to support a large number of our species. In a large part of the South of England I see no reason why hundreds of species may not have lived since the Pliocene, the covering of snow during the winter being a compensation for the lower temperature of the air for a portion of the time. But I cannot go into this great question now, but I have discussed it in my chapters on the G Glacial Epoch in my "Island Life" — to the best of my recollection.

Yours very truly | Alfred R. Wallace

Transcription (WCP1477.4341)

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To Clement Reid, Esq.

Old Orchard,

Broadstone,

Wimborne.

August 24th. 1911

My dear Clement Reid

I have read you paper on British plants & the Glacial period with great interest, mainly because you support my views of the great powers of distribution of plants over the ocean, not only for a few tens of miles, but for many hundreds & even, in rare cases, thousands. I really wish you would look up & read again my discussion of the Flora of the Azores, in my "Island Life" (pp. 256-262). In this case there is absolutely no doubt that the whole of its plants have been gradually introduced during the latter half of the Tertiary period over a width of ocean of about 1000 miles, by such causes as you mention — while the absence of all these of all those genera whose seeds could not have passed by those means, completes the proof. No single botanist, that I know of, has shown any flaw in my argument, or shown any other mode of origin for the Flora; yet very few refer to it or accept it!

But while, therefore, I quite agree with your argument as to the fact of the very large amount of our species which have been so derived since the global period I cannot accept your view that the whole has been so introduced, for several reasons. It is certain that temperature, is only one of many, very many, factors that determine the distribution of species; and it is also certain that at the Southern limit of the ice-sheet the winter temperature may h have been quite mild enough to support a large number of our species. In a large part of the South of England I see no reason why hundreds of species may not have lived since the Pliocene, the covering of snow during the winter being a compensation for the lower temperature of the air for a portion of the time. But I cannot go into this great question now, but I have discussed it in my chapters on the G Glacial Epoch in my "Island Life" — to the best of my recollection.

Yours very truly | Alfred R. Wallace.

Published letter (WCP1477.5771)

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The Chairman (Professor Weiss) then read a letter from Dr. Alfred Russel Wallace, F.R.S., to Mr. Clement Reid, in which the following passages occur: 'I have read your paper on British plants and the Glacial Period with great interest, mainly because you support my views of the great powers of distribution of plants over the ocean, not only for a few tens of miles, but for many hundreds and even, in rare cases, thousands. I really wish you would look up and read again my discussion of the Flora of the Azores, in my "Island Life." In this case there is absolutely no doubt that the whole of its plants have been gradually introduced during the latter half of the Tertiary Period over a width of ocean of about a thousand miles by such causes as you mention, while the absence of all those genera whose seed could not have passed by those means, completes the proof.... But while, therefore, I quite agree with your argument as to the fact of the very large number of our species which have been so derived since the Glacial Period, I cannot accept your view that the whole has been so introduced, for several reasons. It is certain that temperature is only one of many, very many, factors that determine the distribution of species; and it is also certain that at the [2] [p. 578] southern limit of the ice-sheet the winter temperature may have been quite mild enough to support a large number of our species. In a large part of the South of England I see no reason why hundreds of species may not have lived since the pliocene, the covering of snow during the winter being a compensation for the lower temperature of the air for a portion of the time...'

Editor Charles H. Smith's Note: Extracts from a letter to Clement Reid read at the 1911 annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science (Portsmouth), on 4 September 1911. Printed in Report of the Eightieth Meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science (1912).

Please cite as “WCP1477,” in Beccaloni, G. W. (ed.), Ɛpsilon: The Alfred Russel Wallace Collection accessed on 10 May 2024, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/wallace/letters/WCP1477