WCP3758

Letter (WCP3758.3670)

[1]

1 Eldon Place Broadstairs

Sep 5th 1858

My dear Hooker1

I am glad Mrs Hooker2 has found rest for the sole of her foot. I returned her Tyndalls3 letter Saturday.

I am sorry for Harvey,4 for of all things 'biles' is the unpleasantest. Is he going to migrate with you to the sea side?

Wallace's impetus seems to have set Darwin5 going in earnest and I am rejoiced to hear we shall learn his views in full, at last. I look forward to a great revolution being effected. [2] Depend upon it in Natural History as in everything else when the English mind fully determines to work a thing out it will do it better than any other.

I firmly believe in the advent of an English Epoch in science & art which will lick the Augustan (which, by the bye, had neither science nor art in one sense, but you know what I mean) into fits. So Hooray in the first place for the Genera plantarum.

I can quite understand the need of a new one and I am right glad you have undertaken it —. It seems to [3] me to be in all respects the sort of work for you and exactly adapted to your environment at Kew — I remember you mentioned to me some time ago that you were thinking of it.

I wish I could even hope that such a thing would be ever attempted in the course of this generation for Animals —

But with animal morphology in the state in which it is now — we have no terminology that will stand and consequently concise & comparable definitions are in many cases impossible[.] [4] If old Dom. Gray6 were but an intelligent activity instead of being as at f a sort of zoological whirlwind what a deal he might do — — and I am hopeless of Owen's7 comprehending what classification means since the publication of the wonderful scheme which adorns (like a Corinthian portico in cow-dung) the last edition of his lectures.

As you say I have found this a great place for "work of price" — I have finished the Oceanic Hydrozoa all but the book work for which [5] I must have access to the B.M. library — but another week will do him. My notes are from eight to twelve years old and really I often have felt like the editor of somebody else's posthumous work —

But now I am busy over the Croonian which must be done before I return. I have been pulling at all the arguments as a spider does at his thread & I think they are all strong — If so, the thing will do some good.

[6] I am perplexed about the N. H. collections —. The best thing I firmly believe would be for the Economic Zoology and a set of well selected types to go to Kensington but I should be sorry to see the scientific collection placed under any such auspices as those which govern the "Bilers"[.] I don't believe the clay soil of the Regents Park would matter a fraction — and to have a grand scientific zoological [7] and paleontological collection for work's purposes close to the Gardens where the living beasts all would be a grand thing. I should not wonder if the affair is greatly discussed at the B. A at Leeds and then perhaps light will arise —

Have you seen that madcap Tyndall's letter in the Times? He'll break his blessed neck some day and that will be a great hole in the efficiency of my scientific young England. [8] We mean to return next Saturday, and somewhere about the 16 or 17? I shall go down to York where I want to study plesiosaurs. I shall return after the British Association. The interesting question arises shall I have a row with the great O there? What a capital title that is they give him of the British Cuvier — He stands in exactly the same relation to the French as British Brandy to Cognac.

Ever Yours Faithfully | T H Huxley8 [signature]

Am I to send the Gardeners Chron. ch.? & where? Please I have mislaid the address[.]

Hooker, Joseph Dalton (1817-1911). British botanist and explorer. Director of the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew 1865-85. President of the Royal Society 1873-78.
Hooker (née Henslow), Frances Harriet (1825-1874). British botanist, translator and first wife of J. D. Hooker.
Tyndall, John (1820-1893). Irish physicist and mountaineer. Professor of natural philosophy at the Royal Institution in 1853; Superintendent of the Royal Institution 1867-1887.
Harvey, William Henry (1811-1866). Irish botanist.
Darwin, Charles Robert (1809-1882). British naturalist, geologist and author, notably of On the Origin of Species (1859).
Gray, George Robert (1808-1872). British zoologist and author. Head of the British Museum’s ornithological section.
Owen, Richard (1804-1892). British comparative anatomist and vertebrate palaeontologist. Instrumental in establishing the British Museum (Natural History) in South Kensington. Outspoken opponent of natural selection.
Huxley, Thomas Henry (1825-1895). British biologist and author, known as "Darwin's Bulldog".

Published letter (WCP3758.6493)

[1] [p. 229]

1 ELDON PLACE, BROADSTAIRS, Sept. 5, 1858.

MY DEAR HOOKER — I am glad Mrs. Hooker has found rest for the sole of her foot. I returned her Tyndall's letter yesterday. [2] [p. 230] Wallace's impetus seems to have set Darwin going in earnest, and I am rejoiced to hear we shall learn his views in full, at last. I look forward to a great revolution being effected. Depend upon it, in natural history, as in everything else, when the English mind fully determines to work a thing out, it will do it better than any other.

I firmly believe in the advent of an English epoch in science and art, which will lick the Augustan (which, by the bye, had neither science nor art in our sense, but you know what I mean) into fits. So hooray, in the first place, for the Genera plantarum. I can quite understand the need of a new one, and I am right glad you have undertaken it. It seems to me to be in all respects the sort of work for you, and exactly adapted to your environment at Kew. I remember you mentioned to me some time ago that you were thinking of it.

I wish I could even hope that such a thing would be even attempted in the course of this generation for animals.

But with animal morphology in the state in which it is now, we have no terminology that will stand, and consequently concise and comparable definitions are in many case impossible.

If old Dom. Gray1 were but an intelligent activity instead of being a sort of zoological whirlwind, what a deal he might do. And I am hopeless of Owen's comprehending what classification means since the publication of the wonderful scheme which adorns the last edition of his lectures.

As you say, I have found this a great place for "work of price." I have finished the "Oceanic Hydroza" all but the bookwork, for which I must have access to the B.M. Library — but another week will do him. My notes are from eight to twelve years old, and really often I have felt like the editor of somebody else's posthumous work. [3] [p. 231] Just now I am busy over the "Croonian," which must be done before I return. I have been pulling at all the arguments as a spider does at his threads, and I think they are all strong. If so the thing will do some good.

I am perplexed about the N.H. Collections. The best thing, I firmly believe, would be for the Economic Zoology and a set of well-selected types to go to Kensington, but I should be sorry to see the scientific collection placed under any such auspices as those which govern the "Bilers." I don't believe the clay soil of the Regent's Park would matter a fraction — and to have a grand scientific zoological and paleontological collection for working purposes close to the Gardens where the living beasts are, would be a grand thing. I should not wonder if the affair is greatly discussed at the B.A. at Leeds, and then, perhaps, light will arise.

Have you seen that madcap Tyndall's letter in the Times? He'll break his blessed neck some day, and that will be a great hole in the efficiency of my scientific young England. We mean to return next Saturday, and somewhere about the 16th or 17th I shall go down to York, where I want to study Plesiosaurs. I shall return after the British Association. The interesting question arises, Shall I have a row with the great O. there? What a capital title that is they give him of the British Cuvier. He stands in exactly the same relation to the French as British brandy to cognac. — Ever yours faithfully,

T.H. HUXLEY

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Please cite as “WCP3758,” in Beccaloni, G. W. (ed.), Ɛpsilon: The Alfred Russel Wallace Collection accessed on 5 June 2025, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/wallace/letters/WCP3758