WCP1897

Letter (WCP1897.4070)

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Hurstpierpoint

March [April] 8th. 18681

Dear Darwin

I am sorry you should have given yourself the trouble to answer my ideas on Sterility— If you are not convinced, I have little doubt but that I am wrong; and in fact I was only half-convinced by my own arguments,— and I now think there is about an even chance that Nat[ural]. Select[ion]. may or not be able to accumulate sterility. If my 1st prop[osition]. is modified to,— the existence of a species and a variety existing in the same area, it will do just as [2] well for my argument. Such certainly do exist. They are fertile together, and yet each maintains itself tolerably distinct. How can this be, if there is no disinclination to crossing?

My belief certainly is that number of offspring is not so important an element in keeping up population of a species, as supply of food and other favourable conditions,— because the numbers of a species constantly vary greatly in different parts of its area, whereas the average number of offspring is not a very variable element.

However I will say no more but leave the problem as insoluble, only fearing that it will become a [3] formidable weapon in the hands of the enemies of Nat[ural]. Selection.

While writing a few pages on the northern Alpine forms of plants on the Java mountains I wanted a few cases to refer to like Teneriffe, where there are no northern forms and scarcely any alpine. I expected the volcanoes of Hawaii would be a good case, and asked Dr. Seemann2 about them. It seems a man has lately published a list of Hawaaian plants and the mountains swarm with European alpine genera & some species!. Is not this most extraordinary and a puzzler. They are I believe truly Oceanic islands in the absence of mammals and the extreme poverty of Birds & Insects [4] and they are within the tropics.

Will not that be a hard nut for you when you come to treat in detail on Geog[raphical]. distribution.

I enclose Seemann’s note,3 which please return when you have copied the list if of any use to you.

Many thanks for your carte which I think very good. The large one had not arrived when I was in town last week.

Sir C. Lyell’s4 Chap[ter]. on Oceanic Is[lands].5 I think very good.

Believe me Dear Darwin | Yours very faithfully | Alfred R. Wallace [signature]

ARW's date of March is an error. The correct date of 8 April 1868 has been established by the Darwin Correspondence Project see DCP-LETT-6104.
Seemann, Berthold Carl (1825-1871). German botanist and appointed naturalist on the HMS Herald voyage exploring the American West coast and Pacific, 1847-51.
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Lyell, Charles (1797-1875). British lawyer and geologist.
ARW refers to Lyell's new chapter on oceanic islands included in the second volume of the tenth edition of the Principles of Geology. (see Lyell, C. 1867-1868. Insular Floras and Faunas Considered with Reference to the Origin Species. 402-432. Principles of Geology or the Modern Changes of the Earth and Its Inhabitants. tenth edtion, 2 vols. London: John Murray.)

Transcription (WCP1897.1787)

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To C.Darwin.) Hurstpierpoint. March 8th.1868

Dear Darwin I am sorry you should have given yourself the trouble to answer my ideas on Sterility — if you are not convinced, I have little doubt but that I am wrong; and in fact I was only half convinced by my own arguments, — and I now think there is about an even chance that Nat.Select. may or not be able to accumulate sterility. If my first prop. is modified to, — the existence of a species and a variety in the same area, it will do just as well for my argument. Such certainly do exist. They are fertile together, and yet each maintains itself tolerably distinct. How can this be, if there is no disinclination to crossing? My belief certainly is that number of offspring is not so important an element of keeping up population of a species, as supply of food and other favourable conditions, — because the numbers of a species constantly vary greatly in different parts of its area, whereas the average number of offspring is not a very variable element.

However I will say no more but leave the problem as insoluble, only fearing that it will become a formidable weapon in the hands of the enemies of Nat.Selection.

While writing a few pages on the northern Alpine forms of plants on the Java mountains I wanted a few cases to refer to like Teneriffe, where there are no northern forms and scarcely any alpine. I expected the volcanoes of Hawaii would be a good case, and asked Dr Seeman about them. It seems a man has lately published a list of Hawaaian [sic] plants and the mountains swarm with European alpine genera & some species! Is not this most extraordinary and a puzzler. They are I believe truly Oceanic Islands in the absence of mammals and the extreme poverty of Birds & Insects and they are within the tropics. Will not that be a hard nut for you when you come to treat in detail on Geog. distribution.

I enclose Seeman's note, which please return when you have copied the list if of any use to you.

Many thanks for your note carte which I think very good. The large one had not arrived when I was in town last week.

Sir C.Lyell's Chap. On Oceanic Is. I think very good.

Believe me Dear Darwin Yours very faithfully Alfred R. Wallace.

Pencilled note: [wrongly dated. April]

This is the same document as WCP1897_L4512

Transcription (WCP1897.4512)

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To C.Darwin.) Hurstpierpoint. March 8th.1868

Dear Darwin I am sorry you should have given yourself the trouble to answer my ideas on Sterility — if you are not convinced, I have little doubt but that I am wrong; and in fact I was only half convinced by my own arguments, — and I now think there is about an even chance that Nat. Select. may or not be able to accumulate sterility. If my first prop. is modified to, — the existence of a species and a variety in the same area, it will do just as well for my argument. Such certainly do exist. They are fertile together, and yet each maintains itself tolerably distinct. How can this be, if there is no disinclination to crossing? My belief certainly is that number of offspring is not so important an element of keeping up population of a species, as supply of food and other favourable conditions, — because the numbers of a species constantly vary greatly in different parts of its area, whereas the average number of offspring is not a very variable element.

However I will say no more but leave the problem as insoluble, only fearing that it will become a formidable weapon in the hands of the enemies of Nat.Selection.

While writing a few pages on the northern Alpine forms of plants on the Java mountains I wanted a few cases to refer to like Teneriffe, where there are no northern forms and scarcely any alpine. I expected the volcanoes of Hawaii would be a good case, and asked Dr Seeman about them. It seems a man has lately published a list of Hawaaian [sic] plants and the mountains swarm with European alpine genera & some species! Is not this most extraordinary and a puzzler. They are I believe truly Oceanic Islands in the absence of mammals and the extreme poverty of Birds & Insects and they are within the tropics. Will not that be a hard nut for you when you come to treat in detail on Geog. distribution.

I enclose Seeman's note, which please return when you have copied the list if of any use to you.

Many thanks for your note carte which I think very good. The large one had not arrived when I was in town last week.

Sir C.Lyell's Chap. On Oceanic Is. I think very good.

Believe me Dear Darwin Yours very faithfully Alfred R Wallace

Published letter (WCP1897.5984)

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Hurstpierpoint. (?) April 8, 1868.

Dear Darwin, — I am sorry you should have given yourself the trouble to answer my ideas on Sterility. If you are not convinced, I have little doubt but that I am wrong; and in fact I was only half convinced by my own arguments, and I now think there is about an even chance that Natural Selection may or not be able to accumulate sterility. If my first proposition is modified to the existence of a species and a variety in the same area, it will do just as well for my argument. Such certainly do exist. They are fertile together, and yet each maintains itself tolerably distinct. How can this be, if there is no disinclination to crossing? My belief certainly is that number of offspring is not so important an element in keeping up population of a species as supply of food and other favourable conditions, because the numbers of a species constantly vary greatly in different parts of its area, whereas the average number of offspring is not a very variable element.

However, I will say no more but leave the problem as insoluble, only fearing that it will become a formidable weapon in the hands of the enemies of Natural Selection.

While writing a few pages on the northern alpine forms of plants on the Java mountains I wanted a few cases to refer to like Teneriffe, where there are no northern forms, and scarcely any alpine. I expected the volcanoes of Hawaii would be a good case, and asked Dr. Seeman about them. It seems a man has lately published a list of Hawaiian plants, and the mountains swarm with European alpine genera and some species!1 Is not this most extraordinary and a puzzler? They are, I believe, truly oceanic [2] [p. 211] islands in the absence of mammals and the extreme poverty of birds and insects, and they are within the tropics. Will not that be a hard nut for you when you come to treat in detail on geographical distribution?

I enclose Seeman's note, which please return when you have copied the list, if of any use to you.

Many thanks for your carte, which I think very good. The large one bad not arrived when I was in town last week.

Sir C. Lyell's chapter on Oceanic Islands I think very good. — Believe me, dear Darwin, yours very faithfully, ALFRED R. WALLACE.

A footnote here reads: "This turns out to be inaccurate, or greatly exaggerated. There are no true alpines, and the European genera are comparatively few. See my 'Island Life' p. 323." — A. R. W."

Please cite as “WCP1897,” in Beccaloni, G. W. (ed.), Ɛpsilon: The Alfred Russel Wallace Collection accessed on 1 May 2024, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/wallace/letters/WCP1897