WCP1902

Letter (WCP1902.4074)

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9, St. Mark's Crescent N.W

August 16th. [1868]1

Dear Darwin

I ought to have written before to thank you for the copies of your papers on "Primula" and on "Cross Unions of Dimorphic plants &c."2, 3 The latter is particularly interesting and the conclusion most important; but I think it makes the difficulty of how these forms, with their varying degrees of sterility, originated, greater than ever. If "natural selection" could not accumulate varying degrees of sterility for the plant's benefit, then how did sterility ever come to be associated with one cross [2] of a trimorphic plant rather than another? The difficulty seems to be increased by the consideration that the advantage of a cross with a distinct individual is gained just as well by illegitimate as by legitimate unions. By what means then did illegitimate unions ever become sterile? It would seem a far simpler way for the each plant's pollen to have acquired a prepotency on another pl individual's stigma than over that of the same individual, without the extraordinary complication of three differences of structure and eighteen different unions with [3] varying degrees of sterility!

However the fact remains an excellent answer to the statement, that sterility of hybrids proves the absolute distinctness of the parents.

I have been reading with great pleasure Mr. Bentham's4 last admirable address, in which he so well replies to the gross misstatements of the Athenaeum; & also says a word in favour of Pangenesis.5 I think we may now congratulate you on having made a valuable convert, whose opinions on the subject, coming so late & being evidently so well [4] considered will have much weight.

I am going to Norwich on Tuesday to hear Dr. Hooker,6 who I hope will boldly promulgate "Darwinianism" [sic] in his address.7 Shall we have the pleasure of seeing you there?

I am engaged in negociations [sic] about my book.

Hoping you are well & getting on with your next volumes

Believe me | Yours very faithfully | Alfred R. Wallace — [signature]

Year date based on reference to the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science (see n. 7).
Darwin, Charles. 1868 [1869]. On the Character and Hybrid-like Nature of the Offspring from the Illegitimate Unions of Dimorphic and Trimorphic Plants. The Journal of the Linnean Society (Botany) 10: 393-437.
Darwin, Charles. 1868 [1869]. On the Specific Difference between Primula veris... P. vulgaris... and P. elatior; and on the Hybrid nature of the Common Oxlip. With supplementary Remarks on... Hybrids in the Genus Verbascum. The Journal of the Linnean Society (Botany) 10: 437-454.
Bentham, George (1800-1884). British botanist.
Presidential address by George Bentham to the Linnean Society, 25 May, 1868. Proceedings of the Linnean Society of London. 1868. pp. lvii-c. Notes to Darwin Correspondence Project, Letter no. 6258 (Darwin to Bentham 23 June 1868), <http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/DCP-LETT-6258> [accessed 16 May 2019].
Hooker, Joseph Dalton (1817-1911). British botanist and explorer.
Joseph Hooker was president of the British Association, which held its annual meeting at Norwich from 19 to 26 August 1868. Report of the 38th meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science. 1869. London: John Murray.

Transcription (WCP1902.1792)

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To C.Darwin.) 9, St.Mark's Crescent, N.W. August 16th. (1868?)

Dear Darwin I ought to have written before to thank you for the copies of your paper on "Primula" and on "Cross Unions of Dimorphic plants &c." The letter is particularly interesting and the conclusion most important; but I think it makes the difficulty of how these forms, with their varying degree of sterility, originated, greater than ever. If "natural selection" could not accumulate varying degrees of sterility for the plant's benefit, then how did sterility ever come to be associated with one cross of a trimorphic plant rather than another? The difficulty seems to be increased by the consideration that the advantage of a cross with a distinct individual is gained just as well by illigitimate [sic] or by legitimate unions. By what means then did illigitimate [sic] unions ever become sterile? It would seem a far simpler way for each plant's pollen to have acquired a prepotency on another individual's stigma over that of the same individual, without the extraordinary complication of three differences of structure and eighteen different unions with varying degrees of sterility!

However the fact remains an excellent answer to the statement, that sterility of hybrids proves the absolute distinctiveness of the parents.

I have been reading with great pleasure Mr Bentham's2 last admirable address, in which he so well replies to the gross misstatements of the Athenaenum [sic], & also says a word in favour of Pangenesis. I think we may now congratulate you on having made a valuable convert, whose opinions on the subject, coming so late & being evidently so well considered will have such weight.

I am going to Norwich on Tuesday to hear Dr. Hooker, who I hope will boldly promulgate "Darwinianism" in his address.

Shall we have the pleasure of seeing you there?

I am engaged in negotiations about my book.

Hoping you are well & getting on with your next volume.

Believe me Yours very faithfully Alfred R. Wallace.

This is the same document as WCP1902_L4511
Bentham, George (1800-1884). British botanist (rather than Jeremy Bentham the philosopher)

Transcription (WCP1902.4511)

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To C.Darwin.) 9, St.Mark's Crescent, N.W. August 16th. (1868?)

Dear Darwin I ought to have written before to thank you for the copies of your paper on "Primula" and on "Cross Unions of Dimorphic plants &c." The letter is particularly interesting and the conclusion most important; but I think it makes the difficulty of how these forms, with their varying degree of sterility, originated, greater than ever. If "natural selection" could not accumulate varying degrees of sterility for the plant's benefit, then how did sterility ever come to be associated with one cross of a trimorphic plant rather than another? The difficulty seems to be increased by the consideration that the advantage of a cross with a distinct individual is gained just as well by illigitimate [sic] or by legitimate unions. By what means then did illigitimate [sic] unions ever become sterile? It would seem a far simpler way for each plant's pollen to have acquired a prepotency on another individual's stigma over that of the same individual, without the extraordinary complication of three differences of structure and eighteen different unions with varying degrees of sterility!

However the fact remains an excellent answer to the statement, that sterility of hybrids proves the absolute distinctiveness of the parents.

I have been reading with great pleasure Mr Bentham's1 last admirable address, in which he so well replies to the gross misstatements of the Athenaenum [sic], & also says a word in favour of Pangenesis. I think we may now congratulate you on having made a valuable convert, whose opinions on the subject, coming so late & being evidently so well considered will have such weight.

I am going to Norwich on Tuesday to hear Dr. Hooker, who I hope will boldly promulgate "Darwinianism" in his address.

Shall we have the pleasure of seeing you there?

I am engaged in negotiations about my book.

Hoping you are well & getting on with your next volume.

Believe me Yours very faithfully Alfred R. Wallace.

Bentham, George (1800-1884). British botanist (rather than Jeremy Bentham the philosopher)

Published letter (WCP1902.5989)

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9 St Mark's Crescent, N.W. August 16, (1868?).

Dear Darwin, — I ought to have written before to thank you for the copies of your paper on "Primula" and on "Cross Unions of Dimorphic Plants, etc." The latter is particularly interesting, and the conclusion most important; but I think it makes the difficulty of how these forms, with their varying degres of sterility, originated, greater than ever. If Natural Selection could not accumulate varying degrees of sterility for the plant's benefit, then how did sterility ever come to be associated with one cross of a trimorphic plant rather than another? The difficulty seems to be increased by the consideration that the advantage of a cross with a distinct individual is gained just as well by illegitimate as by legitimate unions. By what means, then, did illegitimate unions ever become sterile? It would seem a far simpler way for each plant's pollen [2] to have acquired a prepotency on another individual's stigma over that of the same individual, without the extraordinary complication of three differences of structure and eighteen different unions with varying degrees of sterility!

However, the fact remains an excellent answer to the statement that sterility of hybrids proves the absolute distinctness of the parents.

I have been reading with great pleasure Mr. Bentham's last admirable address,1 in which he so well replies to the gross misstatements of the Athenoeum; and also says a word in favour of pangenesis. I think we may now congratulate you on having made a valuable convert, whose opinions on the subject, coming so late and being evidently so well considered, will have much weight.

I am going to Norwich on Tuesday to hear Dr. Hooker, who I hope will boldly promulgate "Darwinianism" in his address. Shall we have the pleasure of seeing you there?

I am engaged in negotiations about my book.

Hoping you are well and getting on with your next volumes, believe me yours very faithfully, ALFRED R. WALLACE.

A footnote here reads: "Proc. Linn. Soc, 1867-8, p. 57."

Please cite as “WCP1902,” in Beccaloni, G. W. (ed.), Ɛpsilon: The Alfred Russel Wallace Collection accessed on 11 October 2024, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/wallace/letters/WCP1902