WCP1908

Letter (WCP1908.1798)

[1]

Down Bromley Kent

Sept. 23d [1868]1

My dear Wallace

I am very much obliged for all your trouble in writing me your long letter,2 which I will keep by me & ponder over. To answer it would require at least 200 folio pages! If you could see how often I have rewritten some pages, you would know how anxious I am to arrive as near as I can to the truth. We differ, I think, chiefly from fixing our minds perhaps too closely on different points, on which we agree: I lay great stress on what I know takes place under domestication.. I think we start with different fundamental notions on inheritance. [2] I find it most difficult but not, I think, impossible to see how, for instance, a few red feathers appearing on the head of a male bird, & which are at first transmitted to both sexes, could come to be transmitted to males alone; XXX but I have no difficulty in making the whole head red if the few red feathers in the males from the first tended to be sexually transmitted. I am quite willing to admit that the female may have been modified, either at the same time or subsequently, for protection by the accumulation of variations limited in their transmission to the female sex. — I owe to your writings the consideration of this latter point. — But I cannot yet persuade myself myself [3] that females alone have often been modified for protection. — Should you grudge the trouble briefly to tell me, whether you believe that the plainer head & less bright colours of ♀ chaffinch, — the less red on the head & less clean colours of ♀ gold-finch — the much less red on breast of ♀ Bull-finch — the paler crest of Golden-crest Wren — &c — have been acquired by them for protection. — I cannot think so; anymore than I can that the considerable differences between ♀ & ♂ House Sparrow — or much greater brightness of ♂ Parus caeruleus (both of which build in nest under cover) than of ♀ Parus, are related to protection. — I even misdoubt [4] much whether less blackness of ♀ Blackbird is for protection. —

Again can you give me reason for believing that the modest differences between the female Pheasants, the female Gallus bankiva, female of Black-Grouse — of the Peacock the PeaHen — female Partridge, have all special reference to protection under slightly different conditions. — I of course admit that they are all protected by dull colours, derived, as I think, from some dull-ground progenitor; & I account partly for their difference by some partial transference of colour from the male; & by other means too long to specify; but I earnestly wish to see [5] reason to believe that each is specially adapted for concealment to its environment.

I grieve to differ from you, & it actually terrifies me & makes me constantly distrust myself. —

I fear we shall never quite understand each other. I value the cases of bright-coloured, incubating male fishes — & brilliant female butterflies, solely as showing that one sex may be made brilliant without any necessary transference of beauty to the other sex; for in these cases I cannot suppose that beauty in [6] the other sex was checked by selection. —

I fear this letter will trouble you to read it. — A very short answer about your belief in regard to the ♀ finches & gallinaceae would suffice. —

Believe me | My dear Wallace | Yours very sincerely | Ch Darwin [signature]

[7] XXX addendum

It is not enough that females sh[oul]d be produced from the males with red feathers, & which are should be destitute of red feathers; but these females must have a latent tendency to produce such feathers, otherwise they would cause deterioration in the red head feathers of their male offspring. Such latent tendency w[oul]d be shown if by their producing the red feathers when old or diseased in their ovaria. —

Probable year is that given by the Darwin Correspondence Project, in turn based on ARW's letter to Darwin, dated Sept. 18, (no year given) to which this is a reply. See WCP4082.4029.
See endnote 1.

Published letter (WCP1908.5995)

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[1] [p. 225]

Down, Bromley, Kent. September 23, 1868.

My dear Wallace, — I am very much obliged for all your trouble in writing me your long letter, which I will keep by me and ponder over. To answer it would require at least 200 folio pages! If you could see how often I have rewritten some pages, you would know how anxious I am to arrive as near as I can to the truth. We differ, I think, chiefly from fixing our minds perhaps too closely on different points, on which we agree: I lay great stress on what I know takes place under domestication: I think we start with different fundamental notions on inheritance. I find [2] [p. 226] it most difficult, but not, I think, impossible, to see how, for instance, a few red feathers appearing on the head of a male bird, and which are at first transmitted to both sexes, could come to be transmitted to males alone;1 but I have no difficulty in making the whole head red if the few red feathers in the male, from the first tended to be sexually transmitted. I am quite willing to admit that the female may have been modified, either at the same time or subsequently, for protection, by the accumulation of variations limited in their transmission to the female sex. I owe to your writings the consideration of this latter point. But I cannot yet persuade myself that females alone have often been modified for protection. Should you grudge the trouble briefly to tell me whether you believe that the plainer head and less bright colours of ♀2 chaffinch, the less red on the head and less clean colours of ♀ goldfinch, the much less red on breast of ♀ bullfinch, the paler crest of goldencrest wren, etc., have been acquired by them for protection? I cannot think so; any more than I can that the considerable differences between ♀ and ♂ house-sparrow, or much greater brightness of ♂ Parus coeruleus (both of which build under cover) than of ♀ Parus are related to protection. I even misdoubt much whether the less blackness of blackbird is for protection.

Again, can you give me reason for believing that the merest differences between female pheasants, the female Gallus bankiva, the female of black grouse, the peahen, female partridge, have all special reference to protection [3] under slightly different conditions? I of course admit that they are all protected by dull colours, derived, as I think, from some dull-ground progenitor; and I account partly for their difference by partial transference of colour from the male, and by other means too long to specify; but I earnestly wish to see reason to believe that each is specially adapted for concealment to its environment.

I grieve to differ from you, and it actually terrifies me, and makes me constantly distrust myself.

I fear we shall never quite understand each other. I value the cases of bright-coloured, incubating male fishes — and brilliant female butterflies, solely as showing that one sex may be made brilliant without any necessary transference of beauty to the other sex; for in these cases I cannot suppose that beauty in the other sex was checked by selection.

I fear this letter will trouble you to read it. A very short answer about your belief in regard to the ♀ finches and Gallinaceae would suffice. — Believe me, my dear Wallace, yours very sincerely, CH. DARWIN.

A footnote here reads: "It is not enough that females should be produced from the males with red feathers, which should be destitute of red feathers, but these females must have a latent tendency to produce such feathers, otherwise they would cause deterioration in the red head-feathers of their male offspring. Such latent tendency would be shown by their producing the red feathers when old or diseased in their ovaria."
A footnote here reads: "The symbols ♂ ♀ stand for male and female respectively."

Please cite as “WCP1908,” in Beccaloni, G. W. (ed.), Ɛpsilon: The Alfred Russel Wallace Collection accessed on 26 April 2024, https://epsilon.ac.uk/view/wallace/letters/WCP1908