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To C. Darwin.) Madeira Villa, Madeira Road, I. of Wight.

Sept. 3rd. 1877

My dear Darwin

Many thanks for your letter. Of course I did not expect my paper to have any effect on your opinions. You have looked at all the facts so long from your special point of view, that it would require conclusive arguments to influence you, and these, from the complex nature of the question are probably not to be had. We must I think leave the case in the hands of others, and I am in hopes that my paper² may call sufficient attention to the subject to induce some of the great school of Darwinians to take the question up and work it out thoroughly. You have brought such a mass of facts to support your view & have argued it so fully that I hardly think it necessary for you to do more. Truth will prevail, as you as well as I wish it to do. I will only make one or two remarks. The word " "voluntary" was inserted in my proofs only in order to distiguish clearly between the two radically distinct kinds of "sexual selection". Perhaps "conscious" would be a better word to which I think you will not object, & I will alter it when I republish. I lay no stress on the word "voluntary".

Sound — & scent-producing organs in males are surely due to "natural" or "automatic" as opposed to "conscious" selection. If there were graduations in the sounds produced, from mere noises, up to elaborate music — the case would be analogous to that of "colours" and "ornament". Being however comparatively simple, natural selection, owing to their use as a guide, seems sufficient. The louder sound, heard at a greater distance, would attract or be heard by more fema females, as it may attract other males & lead to combats for the females, — but this would not imply choice in the sense of rejecting a male whose stridulation was a trifle less loud than another's, which is the essence of the theory as applied by you to colour & ornament. But greater general vigour would almost certainly lead to greater volume or persistence of sound, & so the same view will apply to both cases on my theory.

Thanks for the references you give me. My ignorance of German prevents me supporting my views by the mass of observations continually being made abroad, so I can only advance my own ideas for what they are worth. I like Dorking much, but can find no house to suit me, so fear I shall have to move again. With best wishes, Believe me, Yours very faithfully, | Alfred R. Wallace

To C[harles]. Darwin.) Madeira Villa, Madeira Road, Ventnor, Isle of Wight. Sept[ember].3^rd 1877

My dear Darwin,

Many thanks for your letter. Of course I did not expect my paper to have any effect on your opinions. You have looked at all the facts so long from your special point of view, that it would require conclusive arguments to influence you, and these, from the complex nature of the question are probably not to be had. We[?] must I think leave the case in the hands of others, and I am in hopes that my paper may call sufficient attention to the subject to induce some of the great school of Darwinians to take the question up and work it out thoroughly. You have brought such a mass of facts to support your view and have argued it so fully that I hardly think it necessary for you to do more. Truth will prevail, as you as well as I wish it to do. I will only make one or two remarks. The word "voluntary" was inserted in my proofs only in order to distinguish clearly between the two radically distinct kinds of "sexual selection". Perhaps "conscious" would be a better word to which I think you will not object, & I will alter it when I republish. I lay no stress on the word "voluntary".

Sound- & scent-producing organs in males are surely due to "natural" or "automatic" as opposed to "conscious" selection. If there were gradations in two sounds produced, from mere noises, up to elaborate music — the case would be analogous to that of "colours" and "ornament". Being however comparatively simple, natural selection, owing to their use as a guide, seems sufficient. The louder sound, heard at a greater distance, could attract or be heard by more fema females, or it may attract other males & lead to combats for the females, — but this would not imply choice in the sense of rejecting a male whose stridulation[?] was a trifle[?] less loud than another’s, which is the essence of the theory as applied by you to colour & ornament. But greater general vigour would almost certainly lead to greater volume or persistence of sound, & as the same view will apply to both cases on my theory.

Thanks for the references you give me. My ignorance of German prevents me supporting my views by the mass of observations continually being made abroad[?], as I can only advance my own ideas for what they are worth. I like Dorking much, but can find no house to suit me, no fear I shall have to move again.

With best wishes | Believe me | Yours very faithfully | Alfred R.Wallace [signature]

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Madeira Villa, Madeira Road, Ventnor, Isle of Wight. September 3, 1877.

My dear Darwin, — Many thanks for your letter. Of course I did not expect my paper¹ to have any effect on your opinions. You have looked at all the facts so long from your special point of view that it would require conclusive arguments to influence you, and these, from the complex nature of the question, are probably not to be had. We must, I think, leave the case in the hands of others, and I am in hopes that my paper may call sufficient attention to the subject to induce some of the great school of Darwinians to take the question up and work it out thoroughly. You have brought such a mass of facts to support your view, and have argued it so fully, that I hardly think it necessary for you to do more. Truth will prevail, as you as well as I wish it to do. I will only make one or two remarks. The word "voluntary" was inserted in my proofs only, in order to distinguish clearly between [2] [p. 301] the two radically distinct kinds of "sexual selection." Perhaps "conscious" would be a better word, to which I think you will not object, and I will alter it when I republish. I lay no stress on the word "voluntary."

Sound- and scent-producing organs in males are surely due to "natural" or "automatic" as opposed to "conscious" selection. If there were gradations in the sounds produced, from mere noises, up to elaborate music — the case would be analogous to that of "colours" and "ornament." Being, however, comparatively simple, Natural Selection, owing to their use as a guide, seems sufficient. The louder sound, heard at a greater distance, would attract or be heard by more females, or it may attract other males and lead to combats for the females, but this would not imply choice in the sense of rejecting a male whose stridulation was a trifle less loud than another's, which is the essence of the theory as applied by you to colour and ornament. But greater general vigour would almost certainly lead to greater volume or persistence of sound, and so the same view will apply to both cases on my theory.

Thanks for the references you give me. My ignorance of German prevents me supporting my views by the mass of observations continually being made abroad, so I can only advance my own ideas for what they are worth.

I like Dorking² much, but can find no house to suit me, so fear I shall have to move again. With best wishes, | believe me yours very faithfully, | ALFRED R. WALLACE.